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A free Godaddy domain name registration and web hosting company?
Quick question... A free Godaddy domain name registration and web hosting company? Hoping for any answer or 2. Second question of mine... That a company was planning to register a particular HostGator name but they have not done so yet?.

Now, there is a catch, this company is a BIG client of the company that you work for, and only a handful of people know they are planning on getting this HostGator name. Would it be worth risking your job to get it? I guess it depends on the value of the domain, but the thing is who knows, really, they say they are going to use it but they have not regged it yet. Either the company is lazy, stupid, or it really isn't that important, even though the HostGator has already been used on website mockups, ad mockups, etc....

Is it possible to register a HostGator name, then sell it without them ever knowing who you are?.

A bit of a dilemma....

(all hypothetical of course)..

Comments (23)

That's a good question. I'm not sure what is the answer to that question. I'll do some investigation and get back to you if I discover an good answer. You should email the people at Godaddy as they probably could give you help..

Comment #1

Cybersquatting your own employer, hah? A sure way to get canned...

Comment #2

Not really worth it. You would be taking unfair advantage of information available to you in your business relationship. Why not volunteer to secure the HostGator on their behalf before a cybersquatter does?..

Comment #3

Ya I can't say I'd risk my job for a HostGator name...

Comment #4

Agreed - Ethics will take you further in the long run than any "Quick" unethical Dollar ......

Comment #5

I agree, I am always wondering just how far some people will go to make a few $$ I have known about this for a week or so but I decided not to take any action, and I was mostly making a hypothetical post about that sort of situation..

The thing is it is not for my company, it is a client of my company, so I certainly can not register it on their behalf.....

Comment #6

That’s exactly what I meant to convey, pay no attention at all to my previous post; good ethics are always the path to take, but…if you decided to not be ethical..

Comment #7

Doing the "right" thing might not always win out financially in the short run, but in the long run, it will more often than not..

Register it, and give it to the company if anything (Protect against squatters, etc.).

-Allan..

Comment #8

Just out of respect, intergrity, and honesty, I would not do that. It is against my nature, and I find that anyone who could do that for his OWN company, is completely inhumane...

Comment #9

Some strong opinions for sure, I think it is a good topic, and, I was speaking hypothetically of course....

And... I did say twice... that it was not my company but a client of my company.....

Comment #10

Didnt martha go away for something similar to that..

Comment #11

You wouldn't believe how many big companies have become lazy and stupid, and not necessarily in that order. Aaaaaah, that felt good to get off my chest!!..

Comment #12

Job = reliable incom / HostGator = one time income probly less then what you make as your sallary...

Comment #13

1. They WILL find out who you are..

2. Your company will likely lose the client..

3. Your company will probably lose you for losing the client..

4. You will probably lose the UDRP case and not even get reg fees..

5. You may have to pay attorney fees..

6. You could even lose a civil case for damages and attorney fees..

7. You will be marked as a dishonest employee and have trouble even getting a job flipping burgers..

I think you know where this is going..

If you are concerned and want to gain some points, make it known to the client that they should quickly register the name before something happens to delay them getting the HostGator later. Take the high road and you won't regret it...

Comment #14

You could even refer the client to this thread to show them the latent interest there is in snapping up domains by speculators...

Comment #15

Not worth it. It's better to approach the client to urge them to register it before someone else does...

Comment #16

I agree represent yourself as a value add, show the client and your employer you are very adept at what's going on, use it to gain points with your client and your company. Good Luck..

Comment #17

Actually, Martha was convicted of lying to a federal agent, not insider trading. Furthermore, this has nothign to do with stocks and would not be illegal unless that HostGator was a TM. Then it could be a legal matter, but still not insider trading..

To the OP....

Honestly, it really matters on the domain. However, I think it is safe to say that there are very few unregged domains that would be worth losing your job over. I mean seriously, it would have to be worth in the high XXX,XXX and up for me to even consider it. But if it is a TMed company name then it would be a no-no. You would find yourself fired and also with a lawsuit, most likely. Let's face it.



This is really a no-brainer. In % of the cases, it would never be worth it. To do it for anything less than what I said above would be plain silly, IMO..

Naw. Just leave it. Remember, you aren't supposed ot even know that they are going to register it at some point, right? It will look odd if you do that. then they will try to find out how it leaked and they will and that could caus eyour friend to lose his job. Just leave it alone. IF they are stupid enough to procrastinate spending $10.00-20.00 on the HostGator they want, then that is their problem, not yours.



Now on the other hand if you were supposed to know about the HostGator in the forst place and then you somehow found out that it may be regged by a stranger, then sure, reg it and give it to them on the grounds that you were looking out for them..

But seriously, if you really are in this situation and you think it is a good idea to reg it, then contact me and I wi ll reg it for you. Once I get the money from the company, I will give you 50%. Mwaaaahaahahaa!!!!!..

Comment #18

Hehe... This is the kind of thing I was thinking about....

But, seriously, the instance I am talking about involves a HostGator that is not a trademark, it is basically an acronym added to a word, so it could really mean anything. So, obviously, the HostGator on it's own is not worth anything, but the fact that a company would tell another company that it is doing business with the domain, but then not have it registered is really careless, as far as I am concerned. They have spent considerable time and effort getting ready for this project so it is very important to them, but the mistake of not registering the HostGator could prove costly. I am in no position to tell them, so that isn't going to happen, so I am just going to wait and see what happens... I just can't understand how they could be so careless.....

Comment #19

For the same reason McDonalds Inc. didn’t register McDonalds.com ten years ago...

Comment #20

Hmmmm....

So are you saying there is no alternate HostGator they could register that would work just as well should the original be regged before they get to it?.

Sounds like it could in fact be TMable. No that they TMed it, but even so, I would not touch it in your position especially..

POP Marketing may not be able to be TMed because POP is a popular akroynym for Point of Purchase and POP marketing is a industry used term..

AKZ Marketiing on the other hand could be TMed becasue AKZ is not a form of marketing or anything at all. It's just 3 letters. I could be wrong about this, though..

I think you may be losing too mych sleep over this. Yes, I agree, they are not too bright to not reg it right away, but I would just forget it if I were you. Unless you only get paid $10/hour, then I would consider it. After all, you can probably find another $10/hr job..

But as I said, there may be a second HostGator they have in mind or that they could think of at the last minute once they find that the original was taken...

Comment #21

One more reason not to register: They could already have a TM on the name...

Comment #22

Whois for McDonalds.com is showing....

Created: 12-jul-1994.

Expires: 11-jul-2006.

So, it appears they regged the HostGator in 1994, 11 years ago. McDonalds is not that dumb after all, it appears. Or did they end up having to sue over it or something?..

Comment #23

From Stanford.edu.

In October 1994, Joshua Quittner, a writer for Wired, called up Jane Hulbert, a media-relations employee of McDonald's. After briefly explaining the Internet to her, Quittner noted that McDonald's had not yet re gistered the HostGator name mcdonalds.com and said, "I could register McDonald's right now.".

"You could?" Hulbert asked. She then answered her question. "You could.".

"So could Burger King," Quittner said, and Hulbert then decided to consult McDonald's MIS staff..

A few weeks later, after talking with Hulbert again and learning that nobody in MIS at McDonald's was going to act, Quittner sent a note off to Internic. Two weeks passed before he received an email message from.



:.

"Registration for the HostGator MCDONALDS.COM has been completed. The InterNIC.

Database has been updated....The new information will not be visible via WHOIS.

Until the next business day....".

Quittner published an article about his new HostGator in Wired shortly after, alerting companies nationwide that their domains were not necessarily safe. The article also served notice to the public that there were a plethora of domains avaible for free at the time that companies would want, and for which those same companies might be willing to pay. Quittner himself refused to turn the HostGator over until McDonald's agreed to provide high-speed Internet access for a public school in Brooklyn, but other cases have proven to be far more complicated...

Comment #24


This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.