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If I keep typing in the yellow cell, eventually, the table height will increase. However, I don't want the blue section to increase in size, but always stay at (for example) 250 pixels high..

Any ideas guys?..

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Hmm... I need to find out myself. I don't know what is the answer to your question. I'll do some investigation and get back to you if I got an answer. You should email the people at iPage as they probably can answer it..

Comment #1

Ok, several ways around that, make the blue cell an embedded table, give that the fixed height/width and the color, so your cell on the left that now contains the 'blue table' will increase in size with the yellow but your blue table will remain the same..

Comment #2

Take a look:.


I've tried and tried but whenever I enlarge the green, the yellow enlarges too.

Any ideas?..

Comment #3

I'm not familiar with "Frontpage" but I know a few things. If you want the cell in the upper left to NOT change, why not just make it a layer? I mean there's several things you can do, but I've found out that the fewer tables you have on page, the easier it is to work with things. Layers are by all means the way to go if you can get by with them..

DO some experimenting, that's what I ended up having to do..

Have a nice weekend !..

Comment #4

Did frontpage output that html? becuase it's all ass about face!!.

There are so many errors that I don't see the how he page even renders!.

You have repeat head, body tags.

All css should go inbetween the head tags.

You have a table inbetween head tags, put it in the body,........

Here, I threw it into html tidy seeing as i'm for my dinner now, and I embedded your yellow cell into a table, it doesn't get bigger now, have a play around with it.

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">.



<meta content="en-gb">.

<meta name="author" content="Elliot Bridgewater">.

<meta name="description" content="Information about me and my stuff!">.

<meta name="keywords" content="elliot, bridgewater, elliot bridgewater, king mustard, elliots, elliots">.

<meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">.

<title>Elliot's World</title>.

<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">.

<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">.

<meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">.

<title>Choose A Topic</title>.

<style type="text/css">.

<!A:hover { color:black }>.

<!a {text-decoration: none;}>.

Table.1 {width:175;height:175;background-color:#e5e4a0;}.




<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber3">.


<td bgcolor="#E5E4A0">&nbsp;</td>.


<td bgcolor="#CBF0CB">&nbsp;</td>.

<td bgcolor="#CBF0CB">&nbsp;</td>.

<td bgcolor="#CBF0CB">&nbsp;</td>.



<td valign="top">.

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="1">.

<tr><td><p align="center"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Choose A Topic:<br>.

<a href="aboutme.shtml">About Me</a></font></b></p></td></tr></table>.


<td width="10" rowspan="3">&nbsp;</td>.

<td width="10" bgcolor="#CBF0CB" rowspan="3">&nbsp;</td>.

<td width="450" bgcolor="#CBF0CB" rowspan="3" valign="top">.

<p align="center"><b><font face="Arial" size="2">Title</font></b></p>.

<p align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2">Body of Text<br></font></p>.


<td width="10" bgcolor="#CBF0CB" rowspan="3">&nbsp;</td>.



<td width="175" height="25">&nbsp;</td>.



<td width="175" bgcolor="#D1D1FF" height="90" align="center">.

<p align="center"><font face="Arial" size="2">Any comments, suggestions, etc, email me at:</font></p>.

<p align="center"><b><a href=" Regarding Elliots World"><font face="Arial" size="2"></font></a></b></p>.






Comment #5

Do you mean the code I posted din't work king?..

Comment #6

Nope. I entered it into Notepad and saved it as test.htm.

Opened it in Frontpage and kept pressing enter on the green cell. It made the blue cell enlarge.

Man, HTML is hard..

Comment #7

Lol, do the same to the blue cell as what I did to the yellow cell.


This is what your yellow cell was like before.

Td valign="top">.

<p align="center"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Choose A Topic:<br>.

<a href="aboutme.shtml">About Me</a></font></b></p>.


And this is how I embedded it in a table:.

Td valign="top">.

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="1">.

<tr><td><p align="center"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Choose A Topic:<br>.

<a href="aboutme.shtml">About Me</a></font></b></p></td></tr></table>.


Comment #8

BLARG! Tables are completely unnecessary here. My.

Personal website.

Accomplishes pretty much what you are looking for using pure CSS. Studying the HTML for my page and also the.

CSS for the page.

Is a good way to learn. You can also go to the.

W3C school.


The House of Style.

, or just do a Google search for more resources on CSS..

Has some good layouts you can look at, and.

A List Apart.

Has some really good articles like.

This one called "To Hell With Bad Browsers.".

Now, for a quick reason as to why I think you should switch to CSS, I think you would find it a lot easier. If you want to change the layout, you only have to edit the external CSS file. The separation of style from content makes things much easier to work with rather than bloated table codes..

Now, the problem. It requires actually learning HTML and CSS. You have to do more by hand. I have to admit to a hatred of WYSIWYG editors, but I think you're better off knowing how to create pages by hand..

If you would like to delve into this, I can help you create the template for your iPage site and then you can play around with it to learn more on your own. If not, then I'll stop posting here, because I haven't used tables in something like four years and so would be no help at all...

Comment #9

Doog you've hit a question asked daily by webmasters, on the one hand tables is so much easier but css makes more sense..

Seeing as king is still in the stage of wysiwyg I don't think he's quite up to doing his whole layout in css, but he's got to start sometime..

So king, you could start to delve into css which would benefit you in the long run or use the quicker solution of tables, but it wouldnt hurt to learn some css along the way.

I personally use tables to control the whole layout and css to tidy things up, both have their benefits and drawbacks, but tables wins on the compatability front and ease, time taken..

Comment #10

I agree that learning CSS (and how to make CSS layouts) is a good thing..

Tableless layouts aren't that difficult to make once you get the hang of it..

King Mustard, just keep working at it..

HTML can be difficult at first, but you'll pick it up over time...

Comment #11

I agree that moving to CSS is a big step, and it certainly isn't an easy one. I tend to think, though, that once it is done, things become much easier. Tables are, in my opinion, a pain in the rear to troubleshoot. You are also afforded no real flexibility with table driven layout. If you want to change something, it has to be changed on every single page..

A combination of tables and CSS is a good start, though, like you said..

As for compatability, that is becoming less of an issue with every new release of browsers. Plus, it is possible to create pages that break down gracefully in older browsers. My page, for instance, works pretty much the way I want it to in the three main Windows browsers and is usable (but not as pretty) in older versions of those browsers. I don't have the resources to check it on all 3 million browsers available, but the big three are a pretty good indication of usability...

Comment #12

This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.