I would like to know the answer too. Anyone here know what is the right answer to your question. I'll do some research in Google and get back to you if I find an anything. You should email the people at iPage as they probably could give you an answer..
Looks like MS1 is still available on SourceForge:.
I haven't checked it, but the date stamp looks about right. If that doesn't work, I'm sure you can find somewhere else on the web that has MS1 for download..
I realise you know this but....you really do want to go to MS2..
I've just completed a conversion from MS1 to MS2, I'd been putting it off for a while as I didn't have the time. Surprisingly, the conversion was a lot easier than I thought - no more than a weeks work..
Most of the mods are for MS2 now as well, getting them to work on MS1 could cause even more effort..
But as I say, you probably already know all of this..
Fantastic, thanks a lot for that link, I can see MS-1 there, and also "pr2.1", which I do need later on, some very old versions to eventually bring up to MS-3, when it is available..
Okay, thanks, now I have 2 places to choose from, the datetime stamps for MS-1 are the same on both, great..
Yes, ... that would be ideal..
The sites I support are running MS-2. There is a friend I'm trying to help who has another iPage site running MS-1, plus a load of contribs, plus some fairly significant mods. Unfortunately, the developers who did the customisations, removed.
Reference to osCommerce. This friend wants quite a few contribs added, and my initial recommendation was to at least upgrade to MS-2, but of course when we looked more into it, there were going to be some major work:.
* Re-applying the current contribs.
* Re-applying the customisation.
* The biggest problem, comparing MS-1 source code to current source (because the developers removed ref. to osC).
We needed to compare to have a starting point, otherwise, I have no idea what versions of contribs are loaded, what actual contribs are used, what customisation was done..
It started looking like a major project indeed, and we have now gone for the "PLan B" for the interim, add some more contributions to the current (MS-1) version. That could be very interesting, however we are going to setup a seperate test area, to completely testbed any changes at all. Then when it works, load into production..
Where there contributions or other customisation though ? Didi you use the 'compare db' tool ? .
Yes, that is one area I have mentioned to this friend, and is cause for concern, for me. Just how compatible the 'latest' contribs are with MS-1, is anyones guess..
Thanks for your help, maybe it would be good to compile a list of our 'conversion' experiences and post to the 'tips' forum ??.
Yes, I thought it would have been you, Pierre, as about 99% of all the posts of mine that have been deleted, were done by yourself. I'm not offended in any way, it's simply common courtesy and common decency to at least PM the person, to explain 'why' the post was deleted..
Yes, I know about cross-posting, and if you can provide proof that I did cross post (which I am absolutely certain that I did.
Do ) , then I will know what I did wrong..
Currently, I know the post was original, a first time post of that nature, asking where I can download MS-1..
The 'core' database changes between MS1 and MS2 are actually very simple when you sit down and figure them out. Scripts are available in the MS2 'extras' folder which do most of the work, though it took me an hour or so figuring out the correct ones to run and do some editing..
I should still have the script I wrote for the database conversion, which includes all the steps necessary to do the conversion - running various scripts and issuing some SQL commands. PM me if you want a copy..
This only takes care of the 'core' database changes, and not anything related to any mods you have installed. Though in theory, you don't need any of the extra data and could cope if it was lost (in theory)..
I didn't have many mods installed on the MS1 build, which made it easier. However, since going to MS2 I've been able to install lots of mods very quickly. Pretty much all the mods are written for MS2 now..
I'd suggest having a look at converting to MS2, it might not be as much work as you think..
Nice to get some help on this, much appreciated..
Yes, I've had a bit of a look from time to time in the 'extras' folder, and there seems more there than just a MS-1 => MS-2. As you say, it is all geared up for the core db schema, but even if I did a simple file compare of the MS-1 schema and the db schema from the current site, that will also aid in the 'search' for contribs or customisation, hopefully..
The script you wrote, yes please, I'll PM you, thanks..
Hmm, .. first sentence I understand, but 2nd one, do you mean extra data in the db , as a result of contribs,etc ??.
Yes, and in theory we may see the need for some contribs become redundant after MS-4. Even with MS-3, the new templating may remove the need for some contributions ??.
That is definitely the ideal situation, but the person I'm helping has the final say, even though I'd prefer to convert to MS-2, because I know there will be so many 'unknowns' in further modifying MS-1. Oh well, the number of contribs needed has been reduced significantly, and we are now down to only 6, however, one day, an upgrade will _have_ to be done, and I'd rather 'piece-meal' upgrades, rather than quantum leaps..
Yes to the database question. By 'core' I meant the tables and fields that are in a clean MS1 / MS2 install. By 'extra data' I meant all the tables and fields added as a result of mods..
I don't think any of the mods I had installed became redundant when I went to MS2. However, I was able to use better versions of the mods and a lot of new mods which would of caused a lot more work if I was installing them on MS1..
Yes, by continuing to use MS-1, plus adding more contributions to it, will definitely increase potential problems, however I have tried to address the issues of staying on an older release..
Thinking all along that this was MS-1, today I find this line in /admin/includes/application_top.php.
define('PROJECT_VERSION', 'Preview Release 2.2-CVS');.
Which to my very simplistic view, would now appear that it will be almost imposible to 'line up' the source code to a CVS release, ... sigh..
I do know that having spent a considerable time in Beyond Compare, the additional code and modified code from the website, certainly is not MS-2, one true indication that the 'base' is MS-1, is that the filenames and database table names are all in /application_top.php (/catalog/ and /admin/ paths)..
I'm about 99% certain now that this code is a snapshot release, "somewhere" between MS-1 and MS-2..
Is there any easy method to determine the.
Snapshot release ? .
Since all the copyright notices have been removed, I can't look for version dates in the source code either..
I do have Beyond Compare, so comparing folders of different releases isn't too hard..
I did post this in the 'Development" forum, because osCommerce developers know what I'm going to ask, but for some reason, the post was deleted (I guess some people just _need_ to flex their muscles sometimes, ... sigh)..
I'm trying to help someone who has a heavily customised (plus lots of contributions) osCommerce site, that uses MS-1. We are realising that even though the best solution would be to take to quantum leap and upgrade to MS-2, in the interim, there are just a few osC contributions to be added to the MS-1 version..
Can I get the 2.2 MS-1 in a zip file somewhere please, for a download, or do I have to go the CVS route, work out how to drive it, and get MS-1, file by file ??.
I think it is very important to at least compare the source code, because there is so many mods in this site..
Hi, you can usually find previous open source project files at sourceforge.net but heres the direct link to the previous releases.