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My first question is Are you allowed to eat cheese on phase one of the Medifast Diet? Many thanks for any answer. Another question... Other topics will be discussed that may not be appropriate for the easily offended..

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What we believe:.

1. Cheating on Medifast is NOT a strategy to get us out of our fat suits.

2. The only way for us to learn about our problems with food is to take the word "choice" out of the equation when it comes to Medifast. Our only "choice" is 5 packets and 1 weighed and measured lean and green a day.

3. We look to those who have been successful with this strategy to continuously remind us about why this way, for us, is the way to go.

4. We believe that, even though we are completely committed, knowing that we have a group that holds us accountable for our actions is both useful and important.

We commit to:.

1. Remove the word "choice" from our vocabularies.

2. Follow the Medifast plan as written, including transition and maintenance.

3. Tell our "inner brat" to shut the H-E-** up and quiet him or her through abstenance from off plan foods.

4. Give and receive tough love without complaining or calling each other "mean".

5. Cheerlead fellow group members as they follow the path to thinness.

6. Make Medifast the LAST diet we ever go on.

7. Check in with the group as often as our schedule reasonably allows.

8. Be honest with ourselves and our Medifast family and to stay 100% OP at all times. We also swear that WHEN (not if) we are having a tough time and feel like we may eat SLUDGE, to come to our Medifast family first and ask for support and help to get us through the struggle..

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Comments (86)

You betcha! although you might want to make sure and wait for another member to confirm it as I am not very confident. Better yet, why don't you give a call to the Medifast guys because they can give you help better...

Comment #1

Morning Penny!.

Looks like you guys have been having some fun in the snowy northeast!.

I spoke to Robin yesterday........she's gone back to WW unfortunately. Hoping to get her back in our folds and to goal this year..

Gonna be a good day today!.

No chopped tofu!..

Comment #2

Hi MT - was posting the same time as you. Still trying to get all caught up from yesterday - good mojo going with the TLer's...

Comment #3

Good morning and Happy Thursday! In light of yesterday's very productive thread, I took the liberty of adding an 8th commitment to our opening post..

It looks as though I'll be home another day today. My little one is sick - she spent the whole day on the couch yesterday and this morning she was running a little fever and pretty congested, so I sent her back to bed..

Last night I was thinking about the little oatmeal "pan cookies" I used to make. I'd forgotten all about them when Karen (GAVette) asked for ideas. I make the oatmeal as per the directions and then make them into little silver dollar sized pancakes. They're good with all the oatmeal varieties and are great when you want a meal that you need to chew. I think they're going to be on my breakfast menu this morning..

Who's with me for another 100% OP day? Onward and downward, y'all!..

Comment #4

Morning Penny, MT and Karen.

It was so warm here yesterday and already humid in February; today not so much..

I'm meeting a friend for coffee this am, so I'll take a bar with me and have either water or hot tea. Tonight we have Middle School Family Book Club where they feed us so I'll eat my L&G at lunch, the food they serve is not typically something I can eat..

Have a great day everyone!..

Comment #5

The doors flew open and people are pouring in! Good morning, MT and Karen!.

Karen, I was thinking about Robin this week and looking to see if she'd been on FB recently. I suppose there are worse things than going back on WW - especially now that they are more focused on clean, whole foods. If you can keep all those choices and options in check, it can work. But I like the no-choices approach of MF. I'll have to shoot her a message to say hello...

Comment #6

Like the addition Penny..

And 100% it is - today and always!..

Comment #7

Morning, Anna! Wait - aren't you on the west coast? Isn't it like Quarter to Dark there?..

Comment #8

Some of the things she talked about scared me with the new plan. I can't believe a lot of the zero point foods they have now.........too risky for me. I'm sure she'd really like hearing from you...

Comment #9

Morning everyone. Was waiting for someone else to start the thread - all the suggestions on adding this statement, or that...not awake enough to sift through yesterday's. Great job Penny - it's perfect!!.

Roads are plowed, school's open...I was hoping the wind had drifted our road shut again to have another at home day, but no such luck...the office is calling. I've got two out sick already, so best get in there and put out the fires!.

May not be able to check back in from the office. Have a fabulous OP day, everyone!..

Comment #10

Penny I live in SE Coastal NC, I won't be moving to Cali until the school year is over.

My screen name is my son's middle name (I know it makes people think I'm from California sometimes)..

Comment #11

I totally agree. The food is healthier than their line of sludge-packed processed stuff, but it's not going to help weight loss efforts if it's zero points. "Go ahead and eat the entire bunch of bananas. They're free! See you next week!"..

Comment #12

Safe travels, Jan! I hope they appreciate you!.

Anna, that makes more sense!..

Comment #13

I have to add here that I'm not picking on WW because it's "another plan." I did it. For years. I had a little success, but too many choices. I needed stricter rules. I don't know too many people who, if on WW, haven't been on it "for years." I have friends who were on it with me in 2006 who are still starting again on Monday. When I bought the ten-week package of meetings, immediately pre-MF in 2009, there were people in those meetings that I clearly remembered from 2006. And they weren't any smaller...

Comment #14

WW worked for me - back when it was strict: before points. It was definitely focused on healthy eating, balancing fats/carbs/proteins. I did lose weight, but, of course, couldn't keep it off. It was just a little game to play; as soon as I stopped playing the weight came back. But the points?!? Nope - it would never work for me..

Guess I'll be able to play a little today after all. My school is now closed; live power lines down in front of the building...

Comment #15

Oh, Chris! That's dangerous! Glad you can pay today. I'm home, too. Emma is sick. This is.



I got an email from Carnival that says, "Somewhere in the Caribbean it's 83 degrees.".


(haha - the internutz sees that as an email address!)..

Comment #16

LOL - I tried to click on it. Got an email link..

OK, TLers. Just got caught up on last night's thread. Steph in AZ - do you realize you were off-plan with the 60 minute of exercise? 45 minute max. Sounds silly, but too much exercise (and Zumba is REALLY intense exercise) can/will cause your weight loss to come to a screeching halt or even a gain. Too many calories spent for your body to handle. Don't Do It Again!.

De Zumbas. Check with her..

And someone said something about someone, so.......

Comment #17

Okay, I've lost my appetite. Sorry Richard. Doesn't that picture truly qualify as food porn?.

Have a great day OP, everyone, staying safe and warm..


Comment #18

Sorry, Beth. You're right. Carrots are not OP. So sorry...

Comment #19

You think that's gross, imagine what he looked like in that Speedo when he was getting that tan!..

Comment #20

LOL - what a way to start the day - food porn with Richard Simmons! Glad I wasn't drinking anyting..

I've done WW so many times over the years I've lost count. Like everything else, it works if you do it. I can't speak to the new "all you can eat fruits and veggies" rule. I do think they say "within reason." But gee, if we were able to eat with in reason I guess we wouldn't be fat..

Today was my official weigh-in and I was still 254.8. I've been 255 or 254.8 for four days in a row now, and I was really hoping to hit 252 so I could have 30 pounds in five weeks. BUT - I still lost 3.5 for the week, and 27.2 in five weeks, so I'm not complaining. It is moving in the right direction and I know the next whoosh will come soon. I'm ready for the 240's!!.

I did the Walk Away the Pounds 2 mile video last night. It was good to get moving. I've walked a couple of times at the nature park but they're not open every day or during hours that I can get there. And of course in the blizzard - no way. It'll be a casual day at work because of the weather and I'm hoping to use the treadmill there. One of my coworkers brought a treadmill up and I've never used it yet because the weight capacity is 250 lbs.

Speaking of work.... gotta get there soon!..

Comment #21

Morning, TLers! I love our group..

Did WW for years - lost 70 pounds doing WW between 2001 and 2009. Lost 70 pounds on Medifast between April and October...

Comment #22

Same here, Steph. I love our group, too. Judging by yesterday's thread, open forum conversation can be very productive..

I lost 50 pounds in 5 years on WW and Atkins. I lost the next 50 in 5 months on MF...

Comment #23

TKD good job on the loss.

Glad I wasn't drinking when I saw the Simmons pics..

I've done WW oh, 5 times. the meetings are often a bunch of people discussing how they can eat crap and stay in their points...

Comment #24

Morning all! Another cold day at work. Have to figure out how to do HR and facilities from home....

I have a friend who lost over 100 lbs on WW. She started when I first started Medifast - she wouldn't consider Medifast because she couldn't eat her ice cream. She is still counting points, but doesn't want to switch to the new plan because she doesn't like the foods they have. Her lunch - every day - is processed SLUDGE. So, she is thinner, but absolutely not healthy. In the past 2 years, she has had at least 5 surgeries, and is always getting sick.

Some people have to figure it out for themselves..

So, I need to start exercising again. This is my last day for PT for my back, so I suppose I need to start slowly, but I need to START. OK. I said it. Now I'm sure I'll be held accountable or suffer the consequences!..

Comment #25

Sadly, it's not so different on our own Medifast site. You'll have no trouble at all finding people talking about how to cheat and still lose weight. They hope...

Comment #26

It's easier for me to ignore it here though, I just don't click.

In a room full of people that's a little harder..

Comment #27

Good morning TLG!.

I'm really happy to read that per Penny, I can have a whole bunch of bananas today! Wahoo!!! I love bananas..

Richard Simmons and the Hoff. Two hot men who look great in a speedo!.

My four year old told me last night that today is going to be opposite day. It looks like he was right..

So go out there, eat your bunch of bananas and hug a guy in a speedo. (That sounds a tish on the suggestive side - Where's Conner or Freya with the punch line?)..

Comment #28


Off to chase 4 children for the day. Oldest is 4 and youngest is 1. Going to be a busy day..

Just wanted to check in to say 'hi'...

Comment #29

I don't think you should say Bananas and Speedo in the same sentence...

Comment #30

Good morning TLers!!.

Or it was until about 10 posts ago. Penny, Chris - I HATE YOU!!!!! Ugh! That is no way to make this poor caffeine deprived girl wake up!!!!.

I don't have much to offer to the WW discussion except that the commercial with Jennifer Hudson screeching about a new day is likely to make my head explode! SO sick of her and that song!!.

Did someone mention Zumba? I was doing it in the fall, but actually had to cut back to 20 minute sessions because I was burning way more calories than I was taking in (and I'm in maintenance!) Unfortunately, I kind of got away from it when I reinjured my ankle. I really need to get back to it. That's my mission for the weekend. To brace up my ankles and play with Beto again!! I will need all of you kicking my ***** to get there though! I'm suffering from a serious loss of motivation..

Waving to everyone. Not even going to pretend to catch up. No chopped tofu from me. But I have been crazy busy at werk/..

Comment #31

Morning TLs.

Thankfully I had finished my oatmeal before seeing the pics..

I've done WW and atkins. Lost nearly 40lbs with both. I kept it off for a while. Then stress from life slowly crept up..

MF is working and that is what I need..

Banana and speedo!..

Comment #32

De, if I kick your @$$ and you kick mine, can we both count it as exercise?..

Comment #33

When WW introduced the "new" program, it was before I came back on 5+1 and I ventured over to their online community (where I used to be very active) to see what all the talk was about. I haven't gone back to check, but I should because everyone was SOOO excited that they could finally eat a whole banana instead of just half. I mean, it was like a big ol' banana party over there with people changing their avatars to bananas and hearts and such...

Comment #34

Morning everyone....Snuck the day off from work to put the finishing touches on the basement.

I lost 50 pounds on WW...I am also a lifetime member of Jenny Craig, LA weight loss, and Medifast is the only plan I ever reached goal..........

I was so glad to see everyone be able to sort out the "issues" yesterday......I am so non-confrontational it isn't even funny......I bury my head in the sand, but with watching you guys work through it, I will get there..

I literally had to look away when I saw Richard.....Lord why would he pose like that?..

Comment #35

Okay I just have to say from Theo last night.


Originally Posted by christommeg.


.I'm not sure why she would think I would be stupid enough to pull over with a stranger but it was very sweet that this itty bitty thing thought she was going to save me..

Hey Lynne... now you are a little bitty thing!.

I you....thanks Theo...You know actually I am smaller than her now....LOL..

Comment #36

Congratulations on reaching goal, Mia..

Banana and speedo? Hmm here I thought it was pickle and speedo that was taboo...

Comment #37

Good Morning Everyone!.

Still cold here, no snow right now, but seriously windy. I am baking an egg beater based concoction for my lean and grean and it is really warming up the house nicely plus smells delicious..

I would appreciate some help and ideas about health coaches, as I think I would benefit from having one to work with, but I am just not clicking with the one I have..

I am not feeling good about my health coach. It took a couple weeks for us to actually be able to talk - hard to reach him, he does not return e-mail. And we only spoke once. I do not need another undependable person in my life, I have relatives for that..

I want a new health coach. How do I go about doing that? How do I find one that I click with? I do not need to be babysat, I just need somebody who can answer a question when I need them. Maybe somebody to check in with; bounce ideas off. I am scared about transition already even though it is still almost 100 pounds away. I like to have a plan of how to handle things before they happen. And, when I go back to work, I am sure there will be people there who are less easy for me to deal with than others.

I do not think at work I can just go take a walk or a nap like I do now, and I do not want to slip back into the Hershey's kiss stress management solution I used to use..

I would like some guidance/advice about how to handle stress constructively when walking away is not an option. I want someone I click with, and feel comfortable speaking with. I think I want someone my age or older, 41. Also, I am not religious so telling me I need to let go and let God will not work. I'm more of a heretical Roman Catholic Deist type person. I am a huggy lovey mushy person in real life; I do not know if that is evident in cyber space.

Thank you for any help you can give, I really appreciate the insight of people here on the boards..


Comment #38

Hoff Chocolate and Richard Salad. Just like the old days. ACKKKK...

Comment #39

Bananas and speedos and pickles, oh my!!.

I'm thinking about printing out that pic of RS and putting it in my wallet, right next to my "before" pic!! LOL!!.

I had a "no salt" day yesterday, and the scale rewarded me! Can't wait for Sunday morning's weigh in!!.

No challenges expected today, just a wonderful day off with Mr. Goddess running errands and spending time together *wink, wink*...

Comment #40

Good morning all!.

Today is day 5 for me and still feeling fabulous! My new love is the Cinnamon Roll crunch bar... OMG! So delicious!!! Yum yum! I am glad the weekend is almost here, although it's going to be very hectic... I'm throwing a baby shower for a friend and will be making lots of SLUDGE which is of course off limits to me, but I'm not worried about it. I have faith that I will be able to resist. The way I have felt this week, I'm not even sure I'll be tempted! SLUDGE doesn't even sound appealing to me at all right now, so I'm feeling really positive about the whole ordeal. Also have a big Super Bowl get together on Sunday and I'm not worried about resisting the SLUDGE...

But, as I always tell myself, 5 & 1 is not forever. There will come a time when I have reached goal when I can plan ahead to allow myself something like that. Just not right now! That mentality is helping me a lot this time around. I also have two midterms next week that I need to study for over the weekend, so I won't have a lot of downtime to be sitting around thinking about SLUDGE anyway. Weekends were always hardest for me the last time I did this, so it will be interesting to see how I feel over this one..

Loved all the posts yesterday, I think it's awesome that everyone was able to come together and agree on a way to handle the "cheating" talk or lack thereof. Great great group, I'm excited to be part of it!.

Hope all of you who are battling terrible weather are hanging in there. I don't envy you a bit... I am NOT a fan of snow!!!.

All right, I need to get to work, hope everyone has a great day and I will talk to you all soon!.

- Kendra..

Comment #41

Got a hairball MG? I'd slap you on the back if I were closer...

Comment #42

From a thread in Medifast forum: Greetings! It's not that we don't agree, we do and occasionally we relax the restrictions to make your journey a bit more enjoyable. Mussels are allowed on plan now...6 ounces plus 1 fat serving. They are higher in carbohydrate as well, so be mindful..



Can't I also incorporate frozen pizza in my plan to "make my journey more enjoyable?" I haven't read through our whole thread this morning, but the talk about WW really hit home. I was on WW from 1996-2010 and yoyoed up and down. A big part of the problem was I tried to make my journey more enjoyable by cheating and 'working' the plan. Jeez. So glad I found MF!! Another pound down this morning by.

Staying on plan even when it's hard...

Comment #43

Kiki - You could find a coach that you like and PM them and then work with them and TSFL to change your coach. That being said, and no offense to any of the coaches on this team, but with a team as full of coaches and vets in maintenance, why would you feel the need to even have a coach? hehe. I would bet my bottom dollar that many of us here could answer any questions you may have or ways to help you through your stress at work. If you are not comfortable asking specific questions on the thread, simply PM any of us that you are comfortable with and I'm sure any/all of us would love to help you...

Comment #44

Sassy - <HEAVY sigh> And people wonder why I am so down on Medifast these days. Ugh!! I remember the days when they simply said "NO. Not on plan." It's all just a big conspiracy for Medifast to keep people from reaching goal and to continue buying their very expensive product until we all die!..

Comment #45

Kendra, reading your post reminded me of something I decided to say to people when they offered me SLUDGE, or said things like, why aren't you eating this SLUDGE, it's healthy? I just said,.

I'm not eating that right now..

Saying that did 2 things for me, it reminded me that I'm taking the 5+1 seriously, one day and one meal at a time, and it got people re-focused without a big explanation, just shutting down the conversation then and there...

Comment #46

Another good answer that I use is "Because I choose not to." Reminds me that I am in control of what goes in my mouth..

And speaking of pickles, I read an editorial in our local paper today. They were comparing "data" to pickles, and were saying that it is important not only to know they are pickles, but what KIND of pickles. SOOOOOO many analogies popped into my mind. The clean one is it is important to know what KIND of food you are eating - what kind of ingredients are in that food. And at this place in your life, do you want to eat those particular ingredients. I'll let you fill in the not-so-clean thoughts...

Comment #47

Preach it, sister!.

And we wonder why folks don't take the plan seriously.. Heck, the people supporting it don't! For heaven's sake, the reason we're here in the first place is because we wanted to make our journey through life more "enjoyable."..

Comment #48

Who the heck ever said dieting was supposed to BE enjoyable? I never got the memo, but then again, I never found Medifast to NOT be enjoyable (except the oatmeal and clam chowder). I also never found it hard, but then I'm "special" <snicker>..

Comment #49

I have to agree. Actually, I am able to enjoy life MORE when on Medifast - I don't need to think about what is good for me to eat. I already know...

Comment #50

Wait - they used to have clam chowder?.

I have to agree that it's hard to get yourself in the 100% mindset if Medifast tells you how to make something fit. I don't read their thread much because, frankly, if it's not on the approved lists, I don't think it has a place in my 5+1 program..

When people ask about how I'm eating, if I even feel I HAVE to answer, I just say that I'm on a pretty strict food plan and the sludge doesn't fit in anywhere. I've answered with, "Why do you ask?" Usually shuts them up. Again, no one bothered to question me when I was eating sludge. Why are they interested now?..

Comment #51

Greetings, everyone! The Richard Simmons poster is going to be taped to the front of the SLUDGE cabinet here at work. Not only will it destroy any scintilla of temptation, but it will probably help the rest of my office staff trying to diet. I might even put Hoff next to him, because I can't stand guys who spend more time combing their hair than I do. BLECCH!.

(Now, Sean Connery - he may be old, but I'd trip that man and hit the ground before he did.).


Comment #52

After seeing this pic of Richard Simmons, I may NEVER eat vegetables again...

Comment #53

Yeah, combing CHEST hair? <snicker> ICK!!.

Connery is definitely a hottie even though he is, what, 150? I should looks that good when I'm that old!!.

ETA: OK. I think we need to add something to the rules......

DO NOT QUOTE POSTS WITH PICS OF RS OR HOFF!!!!! Really!! Isn't once enough??..

Comment #54

From a thread in Medifast forum: Greetings! It's not that we don't agree, we do and occasionally we relax the restrictions to make your journey a bit more enjoyable. Mussels are allowed on plan now...6 ounces plus 1 fat serving. They are higher in carbohydrate as well, so be mindful..



Every time I've 'relaxed my restrictions' I wound up eating myself back up to obesity status. When Medifast decided to allow peanut butter & nuts as an "OP" snack, I knew that I couldn't tolerate those foods in 'moderation'. A big part of this journey, IMO, is knowing oneself; recognizing what it takes to lose weight & what it takes to keep it off. If I had a lot of choices as in WWs, I'd again eat myself up to obesity status. What works for me IS restriction, plain & simple. I follow a very strict 5/1'ish type Food Plan for maintenance & THAT is what works for ME..

Know yourself, discover what it takes for YOU to DO this thing, then get busy & DO it!..

Comment #55

Ummm... I'm okay with vegtables. But I don't want any meat!.

I just enoyed my Medifast caramel bar and 4th glass of h2o... Life is good today..

I think I'll put clam chowder in my next order... Thanks!..

Comment #56

I agree with De, one pic of Richard and the Hoff per thread is more than enough..

Good Morning everyone who came in in the last 4 hours :0.

I just went for coffee with a friend and forgot my Medifast meal, but I just ordered hot tea and a bottle of water and we enjoyed chatting..

Comment #57

Good morning (or almost afternoon)..

Now that I'm back at work I'm super busy today, but wanted to check in..

I will catch up a little later today. Have a great day!!..

Comment #58

<shudder> You do that! hehe May you find it more tolerable than I did!!..

Comment #59

There's something to be said for learning to enjoy and appreciate the food in front of you. We've made a career of being picky, or at least a lot of us have - we would only eat what we liked, and what we liked was exactly what we shouldn't be eating..

Not that I have anything against mussels. There's just nothing wrong with saying that some things are on plan and some things are off plan. Period. It's good practice for later when we have to make those choices for ourselves...

Comment #60

Yup, just like Bill the Cat. Hoff and RS do that to me...

Comment #61

Morning ladies. I see Richard beat me to the thread again today..

No news except I dropped another half pound last night..

I'll still have to drop another 0.4 lb by Saturday to be down 2 pounds on the week, but I won't be surprised if I don't quite make it, owing to the addition of exercise. Oh, wellI'm burning fat like crazy and if I'm doing anything right, I'm building muscle too. So when I come in here in a few weeks whining about my slow losses, would you smack me around a little bit and tell me to just keep doing exactly what I'm doing now? kthanks..

DH has his third day in a row off work owing to the icy roads. I have my third day in a row off work, but it was owing to the schedule..

I go back tomorrow, and no the hospital does not close for bad weather. I'm hoping it's not too horrible by the time I have to get out in it..

No chopped tofu!..

Comment #62

Just found this thread...I rarely venture to the discussion boards...mainly because I would spend way too much time here. But after yesterday's craziness with the "mean" people and letting myself get sucked in, I'm happy to see this thread! I'm one of you, even if I can't get here to post much. Thanks for the lift today!..

Comment #63

But, honestly, if I had a behind like RS, I'd never sit on it. I'd just lean.....

Comment #64

I'm with Chris - There are certain items that are on-plan that I can't come close to - the bars are right in that category. I feel like a 3 year old, but my husband has taken them to work and brings me one home each day for my final meal (just before bed). Nuts, PB just make "wanting". I avoid those items because it's dumb to be in the misery of wanting "just a little more"..

Time to get to work! Have a great day, everyone. ~Kim..

Comment #65

Ok, question for the day. How can a person drink as much water as a baby camel, but still have dry flaky skin???..

Comment #66

Ok. ok ok ok ok ! If you never post pictures of those two in speedos again, I promise to watch my Zumba minutes!.

I had a great time but I'm recovering from a sprained ankle, and i'm woefully out of shape, so I'd say I had a great heart pumping 30 mins with me merengue'ing in place for the rest. I think it will be a loooooong while before I can do 60 minutes of Zumba..

Speaking of burning calories, does anyone use a monitor or anything while they exercise to track heart rate and calorie burn?.

Also, Morning!..

Comment #67

Checking in from work - as usual this discussion moves way too fast for me to keep up!.

Those pics of RS and HOff are just wrong..

Hi Hope!..

Comment #68

It's interesting when people don't question these "gotta have it" cravings. And of course I did it for years, but now that I've been engaging critical thinking deliberately when I "want" something that much, it's hard to remember that mindset..

Seriously, though - I don't object to the fact that oh, corn is not on plan, and don't run around looking for ways to cheat the system to get corn in. So the first question I ask myself now, when I'm tempted to justify a cheat is why this particular thing? Why must I have THIS (wine, spaghetti, whatever) so badly that I can't wait until it's allowable for me? All the foods that we ARE allowed and I can't live without THIS? Really?.

That says something about me, about my addiction, about my grasp of reality, that I can't bear to live without those gotta have it foods. It's a symptom of an underlying flaw in my mental design - and that flaw underlies the disease of obesity - that I can't put bad food in general or some food in particular into some kind of reasonable perspective in my life. Just having to work through that process indicates that there's something wrong with me that needs to be carefully monitored and managed...

Comment #69

I wear a GoWear Fit (basically the same as the Bodybugg) at all times to track my calories. This is how I can tell at the end of some work days that I've burned 3,000 calories and maybe that's why I feel so run down when I get home and maybe 4&2 isn't a bad idea that day..

I also wear a heart rate monitor when I exercise, which is not so much for tracking calorie burn (although it does do that) but more for making sure I am in my target heart rate zone for whatever I am doing. My pure cardio workouts are heart rate-based intervals, so knowing my HR is essential to making sure I am reaching the intensity that I need for each step...

Comment #70

Wait a minute..... I thought WE were the mean people??!! Very confused.

Linda - I ask myself the same thing every single day. I am so dry right now it hurts. Nose, mouth, eyes, skin...UGH!!!! I would give ANYTHING (well almost anything) for some humidity!.

Steph - Are you taking Zumba classes or doing the dvd's? I have the dvd's and have found their 20 minute sessions to work out just right. I just have to actually START THEM AGAIN!!..

Comment #71

I have to be VERY mindful of my HR when I exercise. My medications keep me at a resting HR of around 90 and I can jump into the "stroke zone" in about 5 minutes if I do aerobics that are too intense. Heck, even pushing myself on a bike ride can take me a ridiculous amount of time to come down from. I'm afraid of what a go fit or body bugg would tell me! I've always wondered if after a workout, 20 minutes after, and my pulse is still racing to beat the band am I still burning calories? Be nice if it were true..

Comment #72

Ooh, ooh, I got this one!! (Esthetician, here).

Keeping the body well-hydrated is only one part of the skin equation. The skin's barrier function must also work properly. Some things that can help, supplementing with fish oil and/or other EFA's, cleansing gently enough to not disrupt the skin's protective oils, toning to restore the skin's pH balance (for the face) and using an occlusive moisturizer. If you apply moisturizer while the skin is still damp from washing and/or toning, it can help it be more comfortable. For body skin what I do is apply moisturizer right out of the shower, allow it to sink in for a minute or two, then apply a body oil on top to seal it in...

Comment #73

De- my gym offers a 60 min class. But like I said, I'm doing a half effort because of my ankle and my fitness level. Though... I have an Xbox Kinect that offers a zumba game, I should try that..

Oh humidity, how I miss you. Since I work with so much paper products, it really dries out my hands. I'm adjusting to life with cracked knuckles and scratchy palms..

Comment #74

Rachel, I'm thinking about using a Go Wear Fit... I'd like to know that I'm in a certain range. I see there's a whole thread devoted to them here. How long have you been using yours? When do you make the call to have a 4+2 day?..

Comment #75

Can you expound further? I have noticed that my normally perfectly fine skin is dry and my face even dryer since I started MF. What is an EFA? I just started taking Biotin (fearing for future hairloss)...will that help skin hydration?.

What is "toning"? Is it a process or a product that you put on your face?.

Are the words "moisturizers" and "lotion" interchangeable? I currently use Shea Cashmere Body Lotion right out of the shower...but don't use an oil..

Do you have any product recommendations for face and body? THANKS!..

Comment #76

Also goddess, for those of us that are not contortionists, how do you put lotion on your back?..

Comment #77

I'm a fan of mine! I think when I bought mine it came with a free 3-month subscription, but since then I pay about $7/month to access the Dashboard (which is the only thing that makes it useful)..

Be awarethe GoWear Fit is NOT a heart rate monitor. It does, however, track activity, calories burned, steps, and sleep..

I've been using it since sometime in June, for the most part. I usually make the call for a 4&2 day if I get home from work and see that, before 8 p.m., I have burned 2,900 calories or more. At that point it is a given that I will exceed 3,000 on the day. Not every day that I work turns into a 4&2 dayfor example, on Monday I had an experienced nurse who was orienting to the unit with me, and she was doing the great majority of my patient care. I sat around a lot on Monday. It was glorious..

Also, if I am feeling fairly decent at the end of the day, even it was high-expenditure, I may stick with 5&1 if I am not going to work the next day. 4&2 is still my exception to the normal day...

Comment #78

Fish Oil and Flax Seed Oil are the most popular forms of EFA's. Medifast makes a fish oil product. I take Krill Oil which I get from As far as I know, Biotin doesn't support skin hydration, but many have had good results with their hair/nails taking it..

Toners are liquid products applied after cleansing. They're normally used just on the face. They are usually slightly acidic, since the skin's normal, protective pH is slightly acid. Many (but not all) cleansers are alkaline, so toner brings the pH back to what it is naturally. Toner is not mandatory, and some cleansers are "toning". The skin will naturally re-establish it's acid level, but as we get older it takes longer.

Moisturizers can come in lotion or cream form, but not all lotions are as moisturizing as others. An example would be a summer-weight lotion that contains some powder, for a "dry" finish which is nice in muggy weather. Products containing shea butter or oil are excellent, but many commercial products contain very little of the beneficial oils. Straight oil is not moisturizing on dry skin, but it will "hold" moisture that's there, which is why oil should be applied to damp skin or over moisturizer. Another trick is to soak in a warm (not hot) bath for 10 minutes, then add the oil. Dip the body in and out (since the oil is floating on the surface) to get it all over the skin.

This is also a great way to moisturize the hard-to-reach back..

My current fave for facial products is a company called DermaQuest. This is a salon brand, not available on-line, but well worth seeking out. Their Peptide Mobilizer is expensive but awesome!!.

Ingredients to look for in facial moisturizer are hyaleuronic acid and natural butters and oils. Depending on how dewy you want to look, oils should be toward the beginning of the ingredient list. I personally avoid mineral oil (such as baby oil) but interestingly, it's an ingredient that almost no one has allergies to. I just think it's a cheap filler, and I prefer shea oil or butter, cocoa butter, etc..

There's an on-line seller that I love called MoonaLisa. She has a cream called Herbalist's Gold that is one of the best face/body creams I've ever used. Not cheap, but worth it!..

Comment #79

I reach as much as I can, then use a spray-oil lightly. There are some "paddle" type applicators, but I've never used them...

Comment #80

Maybe call RS over to help with the back?.

Or take fish oil....

ANNA - Great job! Way to meet and beat your challenge of forgetting Medifast food..

Going out with people is one of the ways I do business, so I often will just have a beverage... This morning at Breakfast with the guys I said that I need to watch it and since I'm going out with honey tonight, I just can't eat out more than once in a day, it's too hard on my body.... I choose me..

I have to do that tomorrow morning too..


Comment #81

Um... so... I thought I might have found someone who likes the clam chowder... apparently, I missed the irony in your tone of typing....

Anyone? who likes it?..

Comment #82

My, my how much happens on here in a day.

I have to say that I am glad that I already had my salad for lunch before the RS picture showed up...ugh..

MT (It's so good to see you here too!) See, I KNEW all of my favorite MF's were hiding out somewhere together!.

Here's to us all!..

Comment #83

You know theo, at first I was thinking Royal Spouse? Then I got it. I used to like you...

Comment #84

My eyes! My eyes!.

Im waiting for my chicken noodle soup to hydrate and lose it's crunch. lol..

I did Medifast and was moderately succesful but I like Medifast because of the lack of thinking it requires. I also really like the lean and green (and clean) concept. It is very easy to guide for me when not on Medifast to stick to that..

Today is my one year anniversary of the first time I did MF. I lost about 35 lbs in about 4 1/2 months. Then maintained for about six months. Let myself get lazy in November/December, and I am back OP %100 to finish what I started and lose another 15. It is actually helping me to put myself in that same mindset I was one year ago. I was so motivated and focused and I feel that again..

Planning a superbowl party this weekend and plan to have lots of broccoli and cocktail shrimp available for munching...

Comment #85

Good morning darlings! Had an amazing night with Morty. Totally in love. Might be seeing him tonight, definitely Friday and Saturday. I feel like I'm having to live life twice as fast as usual to try to keep up with everything else I have to do, but I am NOT complaining! Neither of us was looking for more than casual dating, and, well, God laughs when we make plans, eh? Not that it's been that long, but it sure is *intense*..

No chopped tofu!.

(Off to eat a WHOLE banana while looking at RS. God I love that photo. I may not have a hand free to type for a minute.)..

Comment #86

Morning/Afternoon FReya, glad you are having such a great time with Morty..

Comment #87

This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.