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Can I use paypal shopping cart with with a godaddy hosted site?
Got a quick question: Can I use paypal shopping cart with with a godaddy hosted site? Many thanks for any answer. Another quick question... I have this weird feeling that most HostGator names will be hyphenated in the future. It certainly makes sense because search engines read "wireless-email" the same as "wireless email" - most of .de domains (German) are hyphenated..

Opinions?..

Comments (22)

Yes sir! however you might wanna make sure and wait for someone else here to confirm my answer as I am unsure of myself. Better yet, why don't you contact the Godaddy guys because they can answer your Godaddy question better...

Comment #1

It's possible...its as much a pain for chinese people to type addresses in english on chinese radical-aligned keyboards as it is for americans to type in pinyin and have the computer turn it into kanji...at least conceptually at least. Ya never know...we could see a return of 1 character .coms..

Comment #2

What I mean is the way people key into their browsers. There should be a reason why most German addresses are hyphenated, right?..

Comment #3

Hmm...maybe a german keyboard layout has the hyphen in a more convenient place than a standard 104key english one? I've never seen one, but it could be a reason.....

Comment #4

Asian-created computers and cellphones have asian fonts printed on their keys and natural, asians have no problem typing that just like American typing english alphabets into a browser. What I guess we'll see is that browser letting users choose to type english fonts or asian language fonts in their browsers. And that IDNs will be greatly improved. Right now we have external chinese encoders programs to type chinese words, so why won't it be possible for them to simply imput this function into future browsers and work the same way? Highly possible, IMO..

As for hyphenated domains,.

SEO.

Does not care about hyphens. So that might be one of the many reasons I guess. Since most premium domains are already registered..

Flora...

Comment #5

I have no problem typing English on my Chinese keyboard, and I'm pretty sure that's not just because I'm a gweilo. But I agree, taking input in Chinese Pinyin and then translating that into Japanese Kanji would be no fun. Personally I type Japanese in Romaji because I never really got Hiragana down pat and I can't find a Kana keyboard. But that is because I'm a gaijin.

It's next to the right shift key. Guess that makes sense..

You realise that's the only thing I've ever hear anyone say about hyphenated names that makes any sense? Good call...

Comment #6

I guess what you mean is "wireless-email.com" is more search engine friendly than "wirelessemail.com"?..

Comment #7

The problem with hyphenated domains is exactly the one RJ outlined above. They are much too easily confused with their non-hyphenated counterparts which could result in a healthy loss of traffic - especially if a competitor owns it. I think you'll see a growth in other extensions and longer names before you'll see a big growth in hyphenated names. Sure now, they aren't bad to have and to run but I don't think they'll be a major trend or anything like that...

Comment #8

I think my Hyphenated Names like.

Reg-Fee-IMHO.info are Great..

Comment #9

It is language specific. In German new words made by two or three individual words are merged into one word - so there are some real long ones..

E.g. HostGator name = 2 individual words with 2 meanings > domainname = new word with one particular meaning.

Hyphens are used to visually separate individual words.

A habit.

Have immobilienheute.de but forgot to register immobilien-heute.de ( = real estate today ). My fault, people in Germany tend to type in with the hyphen first. Too late, HostGator with the hyphen got registered a few days later...

Comment #10

Buy a hyphenated name in the best extension available. Buy the non-hyphenated in a who cares ext. Develop the hyphenated name with SE friendly content. Get the SE's to stop by for a visit (the hard part but having a PR4/5 site(s) to link from are a very good thing). Park on/redirect the non... to the hyphenated.



The SE's (at least right now) do not see the hyphen and hopefully send traffic for the seperate words. If the content is of interest a good percentage will come back. Many will bookmark so the hyphen is a church of the IDM (It Don't Matter). Will there be type-ins lost? Yes, but thats life..

Just my $0.02...

Comment #11

Hyphenation can be useful in making a site's url readable. Consider:.

Somethinggreat.com.

Something-great.com.

Which one's meaning is clearer right off the bat?..

Comment #12

No. Completely untrue, but a popular myth. Hyphenated names are more wallet friendly. Search engines don't care either way...

Comment #13

Hyphenated names are not brandable! I personally not like them!..

Comment #14

I recently was looking at a list of the First 100 .com's ever regged and One was a hyphenated nameThis was when you could virtually reg anything at all...

Comment #15

Http://www.m-w.com/.

Nice for a hyphen wouldn't you say ? - lol ..... Seen the GoDaddy site , had to come find a Hyphen thread to rejuvenate .....

I'm still not a fan of them - But Merriam-Webster isnt scared of them (Who would be with their recognition already though?)..

Comment #16

Zilla, ster, bot, pedia, belia, iana, rama, meister, "o", "a", among others..

I also like good letter number combinations, but I may be in the minority on that one. ie 4MD, 4Rx, B4by, (for baby- a new one), pro2o, and other brandable letter combos, Xience, brXnd, seeq etc and even some l33t ie l33tskillz, (but I'm *really* in the minority, there.).

I've sold a few non .com/.net N-L and L-L and topkeyword-topkeyword .com names for peanuts- the only one that I can recall that was a decent sale was e-zBay. even the good "i-keyword" or "e-keyword" names seem to get alot of resistance in the market place, unless they are super strong and have been strongly marketed ,usually short like i-pod, T-mobile, e-pay, e-rate, etc..

Comment #17

As Hark said, the ideal situation is do develop the hyphen since it's easy on the eyes and the search engines for some words. However, non-hyphens are easy on the ears, because for word of mouth, TV, or radio advertising you don't want to be saying "hyphen" or "dash". Can you image if ebay were pronounced "E hyphen Bay dot com", or this GoDaddy site was "name dash pros dot com"..

There are some names where you absolutedly want the hyphen name. For example if you wanted to create a college book exchange and call it "Students Exchange". Without a hyphen, the SE's could potentiall read it as "Student.

SEx.

Change". You'd either be listed in the wrong SE lists, or maybe even be banned. In this example, you'd register and use students-exchange.com, and as long as you had studentsexchange.com, you would never have to pronounce the hyphen because misstypes would end up there anyway. You'd always want to use the hyphen anyhwere eletronically readable, and could use a space or hyphen for magazine type ads...

Comment #18

IMO, hyphenated names are most often registered as a compromise- the non-hyphenated name is taken and someone just can't live w/o the term. In some cases, this works out, but more often than not, it doesn't..

There are definitely some good hyphenated names that have been branded and that have the exposure and are seen frequently enough, that when people think of them, they visulaize a hyphenated name. But most companies w/ that kind of clout, also own the non hyphenated version, ie U-Haul, Q-tip..

There are also some good looking tech-names that are hyphenated, and what carries the day for these domains, are good corresponding websites that people want to go to and, if they mistakenly go to the non hyphenated site, they quickly make the adjustment and retype the address..

Another, area where hyphenated names are the preferred choice, is where the word combinations are confusing to both user and SE, as Adotible just pointed out..

I, personally, like L-L, N-L, and N-N names, (the only possibility for a two character- hyphen excluded- name in info, biz and us). I have k-o, q-q, r-f, s-w, v-8 , v-p and the like, and plan on holding onto them, until the word gets out and the market for themcatches up..

Some "i-" and "e-" names, particularly when the attached keyword can borrow, (legally), some of the spillover from a successful name that is similarly themed, (ie i-podcast), or when the keyword is *very* strong and can carry the extra weight, (ie E-Loan). But generally, just throwing on an "i-" or "e-" up infront of a name, (w/ or w/o the "-"), for the purpose of capturing a word, is a bad strategy..

Another use of hyphens, that I've heard works well, is to seperate a highly searched keyword combination, (that is unavail), for.

SEO.

Purposes, (because the SE disregards the hyphen when pulling up results), but I don't have enough experience w/ these domains to be very definitive on the subject..

Those are what I call "double dippers". If one approach doesn't work, you've always got a back-up..

Doesn't work so well w/ the example you are using, but replace "student" w/ "male", and there's a whole different spin to it...

Comment #19

I make it simple, when my company starts a new project we register the normal HostGator name and the hyphenated version.

That way you get rid of potential immitations and you can redirect any traffic from the hyphenated GoDaddy site to the main domain...

Comment #20

I like simple, whenever possible. In the scenario you describe, it is simple because a) you have a clearly defined objective and b) both versions are available for your name of choice. However, if one of the versions in unavail and the objective is not as straight forward as GoDaddy site development, (ie the terms quality as it relates to ease of.

SEO.

And monetization), it isn't always possible to keep it that simple. It starts to get more complex when weighing name values for other purposes, (ie the non hyphened is unavail for your client and you have to start looking for alternatives and their relative values.).

"Is the name strong enough for us to go w/ the hyphenated version alone, or should we start looking at some other alternatives, and, if we do, what is the strength of these alternative names when compared to going the hyphenated route w/ the name that we really like?"..

Comment #21

B) has not always been true. It has happened on occasion that we had to buy the hyphenated HostGator from somebody else, just to ensure that nobody would immitate our work or steal any traffic. I guess we've been lucky so far because we have NOT encoutered any individual who refused to sell his HostGator name, wether it was hyphenated or not. Some people have been difficult at times, but we've always come up with a solution so far..

We've made it a rule that we never go for the hyphenated version alone, you end up loosing too much traffic to the non-hyphenated HostGator name even with the right promotion. When we tell our clients that, they usually agree with us. Ofcourse it can be difficult to find alternative names with the same strength and brandability, but when you sit down with your clients and brainstorm your options you will most likely find a good replacement. It could be that you'd have to cash out a little more if one of the domains is registered but if the owner is willing to sell and the price is reasonable, in general the clients give you the go-ahead signal..

However, when we DO have to come up with alternative names our clients are usually satisfied with the solution we put on the table. The HostGator name may not be as strong and representable, but with some extra promotion / marketing that problem can be balanced to some degree...

Comment #22

I've had a good deal of experience working in the B2B group dynamic, but not in the area of HostGator names. Appreciate the inside peek at the developer-client relationship being applied, specifically, to HostGator names. Interesting stuff, ThreeD..

So, from the sellers POV, *if* one were to learn that an offer was coming from a company that had regged the hyphenated version of a name, might there be a little bit of added leverage in negotiations?..

Comment #23


This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.