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Having set up a iPage website and set up the PayPal payment buttons etc. I am now having second thoughts about which to use PayPal or osCommerc. I have had a look at the list of companies who have used osCommerce and their iPage website all look pretty similar (shopping cart in the top-right corner etc) which suggests that it could be fairly simple to implement in to an existing site?.

I have only heard of osCommerce in the last couple of days and am looking for advice regarding it's use etc?.

Can I test the software before I allow it to go live?.

Is it easy to customerise & implement?.

Thanks,.

Dan..

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I'm stumped. I'm not so sure what is the answer to your question. I'll do some investigation and get back to you if I find an answer. You should email the people at iPage as they probably could give you help..

Comment #1

Hi,.

Thanks for that..

I pretty much know everthing there is to know when it comes to HTML but the SQL and PHP stuff is like a foreign language..

Dan..

Comment #2

Install osco (free download choose the 2.2-MS2 version) on yr own PC and start playing..

Comment #3

Hi,.

How do I install?.

Found the install folder after I unzipped the file but there are no .exe files etc??.

Dan..

Comment #4

Hi,.

Thanks for that. Printed off the instruction manual..

Can anyone else help?.

My original message:.

Hi,.

Having set up a iPage website and set up the PayPal payment buttons etc. I am now having second thoughts about which to use PayPal or osCommerc. I have had a look at the list of companies who have used osCommerce and their iPage website all look pretty similar (shopping cart in the top-right corner etc) which suggests that it could be fairly simple to implement in to an existing site?.

I have only heard of osCommerce in the last couple of days and am looking for advice regarding it's use etc?.

Can I test the software before I allow it to go live?.

Is it easy to customerise & implement?.

Thanks,.

Dan..

Comment #5

Which part of my postings did you not understand or which question did I not answer?.

BTW paypal is a pay-system and oscommerce is a shopsystem..

Does that answer a remaining question?..

Comment #6

OsCommerce is very easy to implement but that is coming from someone what has worked in PHP and mySql for a little bit. If you do not have this background the straighforward instructions may seem like a foreign language. But the good news is that PHP is also easy to learn. The basics is all you will need just so you have a working knowledge of what your dealing with. If you ultimately decide to hire out it will help you know what to ask for..

Check out the links below:.

Php.net.

MySql.com.

Having an understanding with FTP (File Transfer Protocol) programs will help you tremendously because to complete the initial installation that is all you will need to know. Your host should have an FTP application available for you that you use to upload docs via a web browser..

Anyway, once you have it installed, which will only take a few minutes depending on your knowledge of FTP, you will be able to test the application. Sample data is provided for testing..

I would say installation and initial testing is the easy part. Your next task will be customizing the store so it doesn't look like every other oscommerce store out there. If you are doing it yourself, this is where your familiarity with PHP will come in handy. There are great add ons or contributions that available on this iPage site that will help you. The sample stores provided on the oscommerce iPage site has some good examples of good layouts too..

Good luck...

Comment #7

Hi,.

Thanks for your responses..

I am still confused regarding berkedam's last comment 'paypal is a pay-system and oscommerce is a shopsystem' - think I have got myself seriously confused. Does osCommerce not allow online payments? if it is only used for shopping cart and not online payment this would save me a lot of time!.

Dan..

Comment #8

Oscommerce and pay-systems go very well together..

Less confused now?..

Comment #9

OScommerce is a shopping cart and can be used to sell goods. Paypal will be used simply to pay the seller for these goods...

Comment #10

Oscommerce is an online shopping cart where you add products etc..

Paypal is the way the payment method is handled. Paypal is not a shopping cart to display your products and browse your shop site..

Once you have set up oscommerce added your products, you may look into paypal to handle how your credit card payments are handled..

I hop this explains it..

Look at.

Http://www.paypal.com/uk/.

To view how paypal works for the credit card payment methods..

I think looking at other people shopping carts will help you, if look round this oscommerce iPage site you will see other sites people have built using oscommerce..

It is fairly easy to use and you really don't need to know much sql to set up ths shop cart, and you really don't need to touch the PHP, only if you go into making your shop cart look unique..

CM..

Comment #11

The PayPal Shopping Cart and osCommerce are really not comparable. With the PayPal Shopping Cart you simply insert "Add to Cart" buttons in static HTML web pages..

OsCommerce is a complete online store management system. You load all of your products into the database, osC generates your entire store, manages the checkout process with robust tax and shipping calculations and provides a robust order management system. osC has a lot of other built-in features and a wealth of indpendently developed contributions...

Comment #12

Let's see .....

PHP is executed on the server side and then it sends HTML to the browser ... do you have a web server with PHP and MySQL to install and test osCommerce? If not and if you are working with a Windows environment, download for free EasyPHP at.

Http://www.easyphp.org/.

By installing the package, you get the Apache Web-Server with PHP, MySql and PhpMyAdmin for local use..

Then follow the installation instructions of osCommerce!.

Easy, no??..

Comment #13

Thanks for all your replies!..

I have got my head around it all now! feel a bit stupid that I got PayPal and osCommerce confused..

My only problem now is that I have a iPage website that has took me 2 months to build and I do not want to mess it up. Installing osCommerce is only going to affect my sites layout etc?.

Dan..

Comment #14

Oscommerce is standard installed in the /catalog directory..

If you already have a directory called /catalog, just choose another name for the osco install..

Beware that your ISP must have enabled that you can use a MySQL database..

Comment #15

Hello,.

Very interesting discussion going on. My input on your original(first) mail..

If you compare OSC iPage site with your original iPage site with "Paypal,s add to cart" button then the OSC iPage site is way too better then that. There are lot many more featurs in OSC..

The advantages in OSC iPage site are:.

* You will find it very very easy to add new products to OSC.( You do not have to make new pages, you just have to enter the details and photo and the pages will be generated autometically).

* There are customer log-ins and the customers get lot of static of your iPage site and product. they can track theire orders they can re order what they have ordered previously and directly see what are the new products from their last login...... And many many more..

* You can do any chainges in the products very easily. YOu can update the currency rates, you can give multipal currency options, language options..

*YOu can mentain your stocks online autometically..

Like this there are many advantages of OSC...

Regarding learning PHP and installing and support.. Just stick to this forum and you'll learn everything sooner or later....

Good luck...

Comment #16

Hi,.

It does sound really good but complicated. I was hoping to let my iPage site go live early april, but if I was to implement osCommerce I don't think it would be possible..

Have a look at a test page from my iPage site -.

Http://uk.geocities.com/ncfeint2004.

Can any one tell me how easy it would be to implement osCommerce in to my current design..

Thanks again,.

Dan..

Comment #17

You may have to give up frames, or at least part of them!.

If you add a template system to oscommerce, I think that you will be able to easely adapt the look of your shop!.

Two weeks are plenty of time to work on your new shop!.

Antonios..

Comment #18

If you need anywhere to host it, I know a company who can do it for you at a good rate - that's who I use...

Comment #19

I think you need a better look than what is on your Geocities page. I would never buy from a iPage site that looked like that...

Comment #20

I can email you my live shop details, you can play, have a fiddle, if you like..

I am happy for you to do this, because, with only a few hours tweeking about my shop was up and running..

And if I get board, I go to the contributions page, and download a modual or two..

If it goes wrong, relly on the last backup, if you dont keep backups then your asking for it!.

Simon, not great with PHP, MYSql!..

Comment #21

Hi,.

Can I ask Burton why you would never buy from a iPage site like mine?.

Compared to most memorabilia shops (www.memorabilia-store.com) I think it looks a lot better. It doesn't take long to load (most annoying thing about the web) & it is easy to navigate..

Dan..

Comment #22

Hi,.

Thanks for your support and offer of hosting. I have actually paid for iPage hosting and am just about ready to upload my iPage site (april launch). Came across osCommerce by mistake and was taken back a little. I haven't a clue with PHP and MySQL. I can just about use DreamWeaver!. It has took me 2 months to develop my iPage site and that why I am quite apprehensive with regards to using osCommerce.



Thanks,.

Dan..

Comment #23

It looks unprofessional. As does the other iPage site you mention - I wouldn't buy from either..

There is a movie merch iPage site I have purchased from though...I prefer not to post the URL publically though as I might get accused of "commercialism, aka spam"..

This post has been edited by.

Burt.

: 18 March 2004, 16:36..

Comment #24

Fair enough. We are all entitled to our opinions..

How easy would it be for me (with no knowledge of PHP or MySql) to implement osCommerce using my own customisation?.

All I have heard is how 'easy' it is, but when I look at the instructions is like trying to learn a foreign language..

There are so many files to download - templates, headers... it's all a little confusing..

I would like to use the banner of my site, would also like the buttons on the white bar I created. Other than that I am easy!.

Dan..

Comment #25

I can answer this!.

Change your banner image to oscommerce.jpg or gif..

A copy itnto your catalog/images.

Admin/images.

And thats it, whenever the OScommerce banner comes up you will now see tyour banner!..

Comment #26

And buttons, just penmame them, making sure they are the same size!..

Comment #27

Hi,.

I knew that! thanks anyway..

I want to know how easy it would be to change the colour/appearance of the site? Will I have to start playing with CSS? if so how easy is this?. I would want a Black and Grey theme like my current site:.

Http://uk.geocities.com/ncfeint2004.

- only a test site!.

Is anyone out there willing to do me a huge favour and have a play with a style sheet and try and match it to my current theme!!?.

Thanks,.

Dan..

Comment #28

When I was faced with the challenge of creating an online store I downloaded osCommerce as well as another cart. Looking at the zip file for osc I was imediately put off by the 1400 odd files that were in it, so I went to work with the other one, spent ages breaking it apart and adapting it to my design, then spent a further 3 weeks debugging it (not easy when you are learning PHP on the fly)..

In the end, out of desperation I started asking people I know for help and one of them suggested osc. Nice, it was already on my hdd..

Not knowing where to start I searched this forum and found in a post a suggestion to start with the header.php file (catalog/includes) and so that is what I did. After 3 weeks of trying to debug the original site, it took me 3 days to adapt the design into osc..

Yes, there was one hell of a learning curve.. But it was worth it..

Download a stylesheet editor so you can see the colours.. open up the css and just play around with it to see what it does. Oh and have a backup copy just incase..

Comment #29

Cheers for that..

I managed to open the stylesheet in FrontPage and had a play. Going to try and do the install tonight - fingers crossed!.

Dan..

Comment #30

Hi,.

Having set up a iPage website and set up the PayPal payment buttons etc. I am now having second thoughts about which to use PayPal or osCommerc. I have had a look at the list of companies who have used osCommerce and their iPage website all look pretty similar (shopping cart in the top-right corner etc) which suggests that it could be fairly simple to implement in to an existing site?.

I have only heard of osCommerce in the last couple of days and am looking for advice regarding it's use etc?.

Can I test the software before I allow it to go live?.

Is it easy to customerise & implement?.

Thanks,.

Dan..

Comment #31

1. yes.

2. depends on your actual skills and your learning curve..

Comment #32


This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.