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My question is iPage or 1&1 for, best for small business? Looking forward for any response. My 2nd question... I think this is a worhtwhile topic..

As you can see, the moderators here aren't going to stand for your inflamatory remarks. Please refrain from calling me ignorant in the future..

Now then, perhaps if you had elaborated on your thoughts a little, instead of just posting a completly pointless thread, you might have gotten a little more discussion. Personally, I think that this is a *very* worthwhile topic, I just think you went about it all wrong..

What sort of information would you like displayed? I'm certain that you are correct, and that there could be quite a bit more information to filter on in order to 'customize' the shoppers experience. However, you haven't exactly provided any suggestions..

So far, as far as I know, these are the contributions that suppport Collaborative Filtering and are currently available to the OSCommerce connumity..

Products who purchased this item have also purchased - Looks up former sales with this product and displays products that were purchased together..

Family Products - Groups like products, defined by the shop /img/avatar2.jpg.

X-Sell - Cross selling module..

Ratings and Reviews from other customers.

The ability to insert these ratings and Reviews on the product info page.

In addition to that, I also have the following installed on our websites.....

The majority of our inbounds links and advertising so that it comes in through the categories, rather than through the main index, so that customer see categories that interest them..

Best sellers over the past 30, 60 or 90 days..

Ok, so now that you sparked up some conversation, would you care to ebaborate on what you had in mind? I am more than open to your suggestions (provided you don't continure to insult me or try to sell me something).

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Wizardsandwars.

: 02 March 2004, 23:30..

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Good question... I dunno what is the right answer. I'll do some research and get back to you if I discover an good answer. You should email the people at iPage as they probably could answer your iPage question..

Comment #1

Yeah, I was talking to a guy that started a thread with the same title. I think I ruffled his feathers a bit, and he started hurling insults, and the thread got nuked. But I thought it was a worthwhile conversation..

I think he was saying that there should be more collaborative filtering, or presentation of dynamic content preceeding like customers, demographics, or other meta data we can collect pertaining to the customer...

Comment #2

The contributions / features you mention are static 1-dimensional promotional techniques. They require manual data entry and do not dynamically adjust according to customer behaviors. These, can easily be built using additional tables and some simple SQL statements to display them..

Fully developed collaborative filtering technologies using n-dimensions algorithms are at least 10 years beyond this..

I have been monitoring this project for a very long time, and know it's strengths and weaknesses very well – which is strong case for not developing extensions for it..

Of course there is no collaborative filtering in OSC, but judging from the insightful responses, I can comfortably substantiate there will be none...

Comment #3

OK..

So you didn't come here to have a discussion, you came here to hurl insults at the developers and the community, with an elitist attitude, and nothing meaningful of your own to contribute..

False. obviously, you do not know this project nearly as well as you think. Many of these contributions no not require manual data entry, and do adjust accoring to customer behaviors..

Very 'insightful'. Care to point out what data might be useful here?.

Well, if it takes 10 years to build, then I'm not sure I"m interested...

Comment #4

I beg to differ..

Family products.

1.

Installation -.

ALTER TABLE products add column products_family varchar(24) null;.

2.

Admin manual data entry.

Tep_db_query("insert into "TABLE_PRODUCTS" (products_quantity, products_model,products_image, products_price, products_date_added, products_date_available, products_weight, products_status, products_tax_class_id, manufacturers_id, products_family) values ('"tep_db_input($product['products_quantity'])"', '"tep_db_input($product['products_model'])"', '"tep_db_input($product['products_image'])"', '"tep_db_input($product['products_price'])"',  now(), '"tep_db_input($product['products_date_available'])"', '"tep_db_input($product['products_weight'])"', '0', '"(int)$product['products_tax_class_id']"', '"(int)$product['manufacturers_id']. "', '"$product['products_family']"')");.

3.

Selection.

$family_query = tep_db_query("select products_family from "TABLE_PRODUCTS" where products_id = "$currentid"");.

X-Sell.

1.

Installation.

DROP TABLE IF EXISTS products_xsell;.

CREATE TABLE products_xsell (.

 ID int(10) NOT NULL auto_increment,.

 products_id int(10) unsigned NOT NULL default '1',.

 xsell_id int(10) unsigned NOT NULL default '1',.

 sort_order int(10) unsigned NOT NULL default '1',.

 PRIMARY KEY  (ID).

) TYPE=MyISAM;.

2.

Admin manual data entry.

INSERT INTO "TABLE_PRODUCTS_XSELL" VALUES ('',$_POST[add_related_product_ID],$temp,1).

3.

Selection.

$xsell_query = tep_db_query("select distinct p.products_id, p.products_image, pd.products_name from "TABLE_PRODUCTS_XSELL" xp, "TABLE_PRODUCTS" p, "TABLE_PRODUCTS_DESCRIPTION" pd where xp.products_id = '"$HTTP_GET_VARS['products_id']"' and xp.xsell_id = p.products_id and p.products_id = pd.products_id and pd.language_id = '"$languages_id"' and p.products_status = '1' order by xp.products_id asc limit "MAX_DISPLAY_ALSO_PURCHASED);.

Do you still want to refute this?.

Please read that again, such algorithms have been available before amazon's IPO and at least 3 years before OSC...

Comment #5

Yeah, I'd still refute that. I did say *many* and not *all*. There are other contributions that do not require manual entry..

But that's really beside the point. Let's talk about YOU. What do YOU offer. What is it YOU are suggesting?.

What data would you collect, and how would you use it to customize a customers browsing experience?..

Comment #6

I think this is a worhtwhile topic..

As you can see, the moderators here aren't going to stand for your inflamatory remarks. Please refrain from calling me ignorant in the future..

Now then, perhaps if you had elaborated on your thoughts a little, instead of just posting a completly pointless thread, you might have gotten a little more discussion. Personally, I think that this is a *very* worthwhile topic, I just think you went about it all wrong..

What sort of information would you like displayed? I'm certain that you are correct, and that there could be quite a bit more information to filter on in order to 'customize' the shoppers experience. However, you haven't exactly provided any suggestions..

So far, as far as I know, these are the contributions that suppport Collaborative Filtering and are currently available to the OSCommerce connumity..

Products who purchased this item have also purchased - Looks up former sales with this product and displays products that were purchased together..

Family Products - Groups like products, defined by the shop owner.

X-Sell - Cross selling module..

Ratings and Reviews from other customers.

The ability to insert these ratings and Reviews on the product info page.

In addition to that, I also have the following installed on our websites.....

The majority of our inbounds links and advertising so that it comes in through the categories, rather than through the main index, so that customer see categories that interest them..

Best sellers over the past 30, 60 or 90 days..

Ok, so now that you sparked up some conversation, would you care to ebaborate on what you had in mind? I am more than open to your suggestions (provided you don't continure to insult me or try to sell me something).

This post has been edited by.

Wizardsandwars.

: 02 March 2004, 23:30..

Comment #7

Hey Chris.....

Glad to see you're still here..

Anybody in particular you're talking to? Do you have any ideas for advancing the personal experience of registered customers?.

Just interested in your thoughts.....I know you've done a lot for the community, and one idea may spark another..

-Chris..

Comment #8


This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.