That's a good question. I'm not sure what is the answer to that question. I'll do some poking around and get back to you if I discover an anything. You should email the people at Medifast as they probably could assist you..
Oh my Sunday's thread is started and I haven't gone to bed yet!.
Well...when I finally wake up later today it will be to house cleaning and trying to figure out cauliflower mashed potatoes. I was wondering, I keep hearing about a queen of lean and green cookbook and I was wondering if any of you have tried it and get any feedback before I blow my money on something that isn't on plan...
Morning, Jan! thanks for starting us off. No work today! YAY!..
My boys and I cleaned the whole downstairs of the house and they didn't even complain, it was great and we got done in just over an hour..
Today it is supposed to be 64 so we may take the dog to the beach to run..
Have a great day everyone!!!..
Most of her stuff isn't on plan but easy to bring on plan. She uses a lot of her own herb and oil mixtures so she's more into selling than anything...
I bought a cookbook and some spices from her. Not bad, but you have to watch out because her recipes are frequently over on condiments. Also watch out for the number of servings. Personally, I didn't think it was good enough to be worth the money, although a lot of people swear by her stuff...
I ordered it but I found a thread where she was basically trying her best to sell the thing and a person was saying how it wasn't on plan and her soliciting was not allowed on the Medifast boards and she had already been banned for it....that kind of turned me off of her a LOT. I just simply stated that if her cookbook wasn't as described I would send it back, report her to Medifast and the Better Buisness Bureau. I'm glad I just got the cookbook and not the lean and green "pack" that was over $100!!! That's just craziness!!..
I hate it, but I have a confession..
I ate peanut butter yesterday. About half a jar..
My mom came over in the morning and we had a really tough, emotional talk. After she left I was alone in the house and feeling all exposed and vulnerable and I knew what was happening the whole time I was doing it, but I couldn't stop it..
I started with 1 Tbls of PB, thinking that would count as a snack (so stupid that they allow that now). Then it kept going and going until I felt absolutly sick, I had a headache and half the jar was gone..
Now in the old days I would have continued the rest of my day stuffing as much food as I possibly could into my mouth, but at least I didn't do that..
I started chugging water the rest of the day and when I went to dinner all I had was water and a side salad with about a tsp of oil/vinegar dressing..
I woke up feeling sorry for myself today, but I'm going to kick that to the curb. It was me and only me that was responsbile for what I did yesterday. It was crunchy PB and I'm the only one in the house that likes that, so it shouldn't have even been in our house. The rest of the jar is in the trash now..
I'm feeling strong again, but I really need a smack. I haven't had that vulnerable feeling in a while and it totally caught me off guard, but that is definitely no excuse..
I'm guessing I will be hungry all day and I almost hope I am as a punishment...
Good morning. Finally a morning to sleep in and a day to myself, more or less. Cleaning, bill paying, wash, all that stuff I can't do during the week. Not to mention cooking up a storm for the week. I will make a pot of my on plan chili this week for lunches. Nice and warm, quick and easy, low calories and carbs.
Anna, I am not a violent person, but I may just have to smack you. 64 degrees....beach.....run! Oh I so live in the wrong place. 34 degrees, patches of ice still on the road, no trails open....I think it is a good day for Fit TV and Gilad..
Jan......I know the only reason you got up so early was to start the thread! But I do appreciate it!..
Who should I SMACK? You or your mother?.
Well, I'm not going to smack anyone..
I can't have "it" in my home either..
What does a MFasters trash say about us anyway? Celebrities trash? Archeological digs?.
Can we track our progress by what's in our trash?.
Everybody have a great day OP..
My mind is wandering already so I'll just wish you all the best..
Thanks for your post, and yesterday's as well. Retaurants are definitely not worth my energy or my money..
, the trade off for the nice weather now is well, it'll be 95 with 90% humidity from May-early October.. but I am moving to San Diego in June so my affair with the heat will be short lived this year..
Keep it out of your house and today You will be OP. It's an order!.
Ditto on the lean and green cookbook..
From my perspective.....and this is just me talking.....but I found that when I was on 5+1 the easier I made it, the more prepared I was for transition and maintenance..
As an overeater, I had to completely revamp the way I looked at and approached food. That was what strictly following 5+1 did for me. Brainwashing.....oh yeah. And I still do. There are things that I do to be successful. One was to strictly follow the lean and green recipes.
Dash. No sauces, nothing fancy, just clean food. I grill all much chicken at a high temp to sear in the flavor. I bake my fish in foil back to keep it moist. All with a little dash of Mrs.
The only thing I made that was any kind of a recipe, was a buffalo chicken recipe I found in Cooking Light and a Chili recipe I kind of adapted from somewhere..
For me, I needed to retrain my taste buds to not want food layered with sugar, salt and fat. I needed to retrain my brain to not reach for food all the time, but only at the prescribed times. I needed to shrink my stomach (I always split my L and G into 2 meals). I needed a good makeover. That's what my strict Medifast 5+1 did for me..
I know this isn't for everyone, but it worked for me. The key here is that before I started, I figured out why I failed for 30 years. I learned what I didn't really change and I set out to change it. I threw away anything that could get in my way. When I identified a trigger, out it went..
I'll never forget the time early in maintenance when I bought a bag of M&M's. In WW, I had a coach that said that she could eat a 2 point portion every day and that was her treat. I heard her say that for over a year. So in my mind, I thought I could do it. I had power over food now. I portioned the bag out.
I put them in with the first portion. As soon as I caught myself breaking my rules, I threw them all away..
Tough love! If you can't have it, throw it away. NOW!..
Anna, De basically said the same thing! Pick your battles! Hey isn't that what we do here?..
Question: did it help? That's not sarcastic. I was quite surprised to discover after all those years of emotional eating that it didn't help. Not even a little. All that stuff I thought of as "comfort" food just made me feel a little bit sick, disgusted with myself, disappointed, and still sad/mad/whatever about whatever triggered it..
I really believed, for all those years, that *whatever* made it better. It was a big surprise when I quit self medicating and found out that all along, it just made things worse...
Barb, thank you for that post. It really spoke to me this morning! I've still got some triggers. Although they aren't present on the 5+1, I know I will need to be swift and ruthless once I get to T&M. I don't live in the illusion that I will somehow "fix" myself. I know what I must do. My autumn "hiatus" taught me that my biggest problem is portion sizes, and that even with no white stuff I can put on weight.
Chicky, you got your smack, so I'll just stand by you as you learn what you need to do to live the life of your dreams..
In a few moments, I will update my ticker. I don't wanna!!! I will put a small disclaimer about the new scale, but it's still messin' with my head a little bit. You know what they say, if something looks too good to be true, it probably is..
Yes, I'm really up before 6am on a Sunday morning! Crazy!! I am meeting my cousin for shopping and I still need to color my hair to be ready..
I hope all the TLers have a wonderful Sunday doing whatever you do!! I'll be back later to catch up!!..
Chickie - *SMACK* I guess the bottom line is you now know that just b/c pb is on MF's approved snack list - it can not be on your approved snack list!.
Anna - I'd take the 90s and humid to get rid of some of this snow! I like snow and I've always liked living in a state that has all 4 seasons (even if winter seems to be longer than the other 3!) but this year is ridiculous! I can handle the snow days themselves, it's the piles of snow left over - driving is dangerous - every turn you make is blind b/c of the massive snow piles on the side of the road. My son is in NC and he loves the weather down there..
Another fun filled day of errands and household chores Woohoo! It does feel good to be productive though...
I don't have the cookbook, but if you google ".
Queen of lean & green.
" her recipes, complete with You-Tube videos (one for mashed cauliflower), are all over the web...
Good Morning TL'ers!.
Chickie - *SMACK* You've earned my very first smack ever. Putting it in the trash will probably work for you - but since I'm the queen of food addiction, I have to ask - did you put it in the kitchen trash with the lid on it? If so, I would suggest pullling it out, getting a spatula and putting the actual butter in the garbage disposal. I heard someone once say that putting it in the trash is saving it for later. Putting it in the garbage disposal is getting rid of it. (sorry if that sounds really gross to those of you who have never dug something out of the trash. but it is the harsh reality of how bad it can get)..
I'm so glad you were able to come here and tell us, and even ask for your smack. Hopefully next time you can come here and vent or call a friend and vent, instead. I know you will get right back on track. You already did by not just using it as an excuse to keep making off plan choices all day. Good for you!.
Anna - we had 74 degree weather yesterday and it was absolutely gorgeous! I went to the nature park for a walk/hike with a work friend. It is my favorite place to walk and I felt so good from it. I think today we'll be back in the 40's - but that's Oklahoma weather for ya! Congrats on getting the downstairs clean. I've got to clean the house today. The grunge is making me crazy!.
Fuzzy - I appreciate your thoughts on keeping it simple. I do the same most of the time, but do venture out with a recipe from time to time like a shake cake or the broccoli "quiche" made in the sandwich maker from CodyJo's web site. As long as it is simple and fast, I don't mind mixing it up from time to time. Most days, though, I dont have the time or desire to do a lot of cooking. Guess that's why Medifast is so good for me!.
This morning I was down 2.4 lbs from yesterday. I was hoping for 255, and got 254.9! SWEET!.
Have a great, OP Day everyone!..
Well Chickie.....you prompted me to blog instead of smack. Go figure. I'm not the violent type. But I will say it like it is. Steph said it well....do you feel better? I still use this question to journal about a few different things in my life. Strangely, I rarely do feel better, unless I've dealt with something the hard way. Go figure...
Thanks everyone! The smacks felt good..
You are right Steph, it didn't help. Instead it just made me feel bad about myself and disapointed..
And TKD, you brought up another good point. I should have come here and vented how I was feeling instead of eating. Like I said, I was by myself in the house, so there was nothing stopping me from getting on the computer..
Other than getting the smack I needed this morning I also came here to come clean because I didn't want to have the mentality that because no one but me and God new that it happened, it didn't really count. Being a huge closet eater in the past, I knew that was important..
I'm feeling much better today and onward and forward I shall march. I'm off to church now, so I will talk to everyone later..
Have a great day!..
I agree with everyone about the L & G cookbook. I was really annoyed when I received it that the recipes all used her spice packets. There was one page that listed the spices in each packet but it didn't list the quantity, so my choice was to either buy her spices (um, no) or guess how much spice I should put in the recipe. I..
Are you all talking about the L&G cookbook they sell on the website?.
We finally took down our Xmas light just now. I mean I quit lighting them on 12/26 but we didn't take them down until now...
Nope, it's one a former Medifast made-The Time Savor Gourmet. Or maybe is was Saver...
Good morning TLers..
I have the real Medifast L & G cookbook (from the website). It's pretty good. Has some great ideas in it..
Chickie - I'm glad you've learned from your pb discretion. I agree that tossing it in the kitchen trash may not be good enough. I'd either do the garbage disposal or pour dish soap in the pb jar and then toss it..
So yesterday I bought something I haven't bought yet in my almost 60 lb weight loss journey. I've got new shoes, new pants, new bras and shirts. What does that leave? Oh yah....new underwear. I didn't really realize that my old ones were so big on me. I couldn't figure out why my new pants didn't fit well. I was all bunched up...
So I finally went out and bought new undies. Two sizes smaller. I was afraid to try them on. Certain they wouldn't fit. I don't know why I was such a hold out on the undies, or why they were causing me such concern, but they were..
Well, I put them on and they fit and now I am a happy girl. Who knew underwear that fit would be such a good thing...
Oh Cheri, I can so relate. I wore my size 10 undies until they quite literally were falling off of me. Then, being a package panty kind of girl, I didn't know what to buy. So I bought a package of 8. Yikes they fell off. Then 7.
Now I can wear a 6. And....even better....I don't have to wear package panties anymore! No thongs or any of those things for me.....a girl just can have a wedgie all day.....but I can now buy cute undies. Who would have ever thought that would be fun?.
I know.....I need a wardrobe consultant!..
My new thing is buying bras and panties that match... in as many colors as I can. I went from being the queen of cotton grannie panties to the princess of sexy lace and frills. I am by no means a girly girl, but today I'm wearing pink and I love it...
Frankly, I'm constantly amazed and a bit appalled that Medifast allows her to post on these boards. They state a no solicitation rule, yet allow here to post. Actually, at one time they did ban her, but she came back <shaking head> Frankly, I wouldn't waste my money on buying her products. Supposedly she is supposed to provide FREE recipes and alternatives to her spices...
This is excellent and just what I needed as a reminder. I'm an overeater and would have had to pour salt, dishwashing soap or something else disgusting so that I could not have been able to retrieve the food. If it is in a sealed container, there is a chance it might be retrieved (thinking of the time I pulled a sealed plastic bag of candy out of the trash). Ugh!.
'Stuff' has been happening here for DH & his job. Stressful, upsetting and just plain rotten. So far I am handing it without going off program. I needed to read Corbie's words to Chickie..
Hi to all.......
My life is one big stresspit - often good stress, but constant stress. We've moved 13 times now in 16 years, and most of those years none of us had insurance, while raising three kids. We were consultants, and made good money - when we made money. Now I make less, but we have insurance - but the job is MUCH higher pressure. There's a lot more at stake than any job I've ever had, and people depend on me to be right, every time. At least the kids are grown now, and on their own, but husband is also retired, and that's wonderful but brings it's own flavor of stress..
I could go on and on about the personal stresses too. So I know what you're talking about, here. I ate my way through years and years of stress. And believe me, from the other side of all that - it doesn't help, it just makes it all worse..
What I remind myself these days is that eating is the one single thing in my life that I can totally control. Everyone else gets a piece of me, every decision has to take someone else into consideration, nearly every minute of my day is as much about other people as it is about me. But as long as I plan ahead, eating is all MINE. I make the choices, I own it, and nobody can take it away from me...
You are not alone. We're taking ours down after lunch. One year, we left the Christmas tree up till June. I guess we were all depressed or something. Managed to get the ornaments off but left the tree up in the corner of the living. Got to where we just never noticed it.
LOL Talk about socially embarrassing! Ever since then I've tried to be right on top of it...
Steph - I just got chill bumps reading your post. The job sounds EXACTLY like mine. I didn't have the moves and the lack of insurance but the rest of what you said was my story through and through. I often say I'm on a tightrope with no net..
Living with the stress and the visibility of all my actions and decisions, while being fat, uncomfortable, and in some kind of food fog was NOT helping. These days I feel awake, present, and ready to go. Can't wait to see what it is like with another 100 pounds off...
You won't believe it. I wake up every single day surprised at how good I feel..
Two years ago I simply could not have done this job. Just physically it would have been more than I could have managed. I couldn't have tolerated the long days, long meetings, all the travel. My stomach hurt constantly, my blood pressure was high, I was borderline diabetic, I suffered from sleep apnea and insomnia - I just had no energy. I wouldn't have even applied for this job, and if I'd taken it, I would have been looking for something else in 3 months or it would have killed me..
So I have this demanding job that I love, long days, lots of travel - and still have enough energy to have an active, demanding exercise program - and enough left over to take dance classes with my husband and get in plenty of um... vigorous exercise too..
I'm not the same person. I'm not sure I'm even the same species. It's a shock every day to feel good and strong and able to do anything I want. Most women my age are thinking about growing older gracefully, and I'm just now getting my life back!..
<sigh> I'm frankly getting tired of handing out smacks for the daily cheat...
Popping in to say I've been trying to skim every day to keep up, but no time or internet long enough to post most days.
Taking a few staff out for Sunday Brunch then they will drop us off at the airport for our flight home..
DD (the preggers one) will meet us at the airport and we will all go out for dinner. I need to hug her belly and sing a little song to my babies. Which btw all are doing well. Praise God..
My twins turned 21 yesterday and DD's twins are 21 weeks along..
Cool, just cool!.
Smacks to the Pnut butter cheaters and hope you learn from it..
But true Tough LOVE says to do better than a smack from us, you know..
Honey really really read the responses and maybe go back and reread a few of the excellent blogs posted about Why we cheat and how to break the cycle..
Corbie and Lealonnie have some excellent ones that really get into your head and help you figure this mess out..
Well, my chariot awaits, so ttfn...
H E R S H E Y...........................
We were cross posting and as usual you said what I was trying to say in a much more Rogue way. Woo Hoo to you!..
You are both right Chatty and De. You will not have to be smacking me again. I've done a lot of soul searching and I had some really good conversations at church today. I'm feeling really positive about everything and know I can do this..
I will make this group and myself proud of me...
Afternoon ladies. Sorry I didn't check in yesterdaywork followed by a long stay at dinner, followed by my first formal exercise in a few months, a bath, and zonking out for the night!.
My Mexican carb craving never really went awayI even mentioned it to DH yesterday while we were texting. Imagine my chagrin later when I was about to be off work and he texted to ask what's for dinner. "What sounds good to you?" I asked. "Chipotle, El Chico, or Pappasitos." Oh, good cow. All places I can get in a LOT of trouble with white carbs..
I chose Pappasitos figuring I'd have the easiest time of staying OP there. Even looked up their menu briefly at work. When we finally got seated, I ordered what looked pretty safe: a salad with the tagline, "fresh greens & garden vegetables with our famous chicken.
Fajitas with your choice of dressing." I ordered it with beef instead of chicken, and oil & vinegar on the side instead of dressing. I asked what vegetables come on it, and eliminated the off-plan ones..
So 25 minutes later, I was presented with a HUGE saladtopped with obscene amounts of tortilla strips and various cheeses (I think feta was the main one all over the top), and very little actual beef mixed in. THAT was annoying. It took several minutes just to get the primary off-plan offenders out. The whole entree was a disappointment, and next time I eat Mexican I guess I really will just order the fajita meat and grilled peppersI ended up eating some meat off of DH's plate anyway. I behaved myself, though, and didn't reach toward any tortillas, chips, grilled onions or queso the entire night..
Otherwise, life is good and still on planI cooked up another baking pan of salmon today, and it's about time I buy a larger baking dish. I can only cook about half a week's worth of lean meat right now, simply based on the pan size..
Oh, and I'm sore all over from my workout last night. I'm currently using the No Excuses Workout system, which basically combines cardio interval, heart-rate based training 3 days a week with a no-equipment strength training routine the other 3 days. Since it was late last night, I did it all in my home officeincluding the warm-up and the extra 10 minutes of cardio. Yep, I jogged in place in my office flailing 5-pound weights in various ways to keep my heart rate up. I'm sure I looked a foolfortunately nobody saw!..
Hey Chatty! Thought you headed home yesterday. Safe travels hon...
Chickie: Mom isn't going away, but the PB can! There are things out there can I simply can not live companionably with, and therefore they are not invited in the house. Good for you for the soul searching. That which does not kill us, serves to make us thinner (heh-heh...!) Keep at it..
Went out today and chopped ice off the driveway, before the next storm. No 64 degrees here!!.
Steph - I have had my job for 8 years now. I was 100 lbs thinner when I started (after having just lost 80) than I was when I started Medifast four weeks ago. It isn't what I would call a LOT of travel - I go out of state about 6 times a year. I have all the stuff you've mentioned, except the stomach hurting, and I'm looking forward to getting off my meds and c-pap machine. I can't believe I've survived the last 8 years. I have to do news interviews from time to time (I look so thin in print and sound so thin on radio!) and I loathe television..
I'm 52 and have definitely been looking toward retirement, but I knew I wouldn't grow old gracefully at 280 to 300 lbs. I was 31 and 33 when I had my boys and I really want to live long and healthily enough to enjoy some grandkids when they're ready, and I'd like to be around long enough that those grandkids will be old enough to remember me the rest of their lives. I figure that means I need about 25 to 30 years more and the only way I'll get it is to get this weight off..
I'm looking forward to all the changes, but it is a bit scary to think about being a whole different person, and dealing with unwanted attention, and other things. But I'm ready to face it all - without food..
You're giving me great hope. Thank you so much!..
Prayers for Chris (leolonnie1) and her whole family. They rushed DD to the hospital and they've been there today..
Prayers for all health care givers..
Hi everyone... I haven't been part of this group long but wanted to check in. no, I haven't cheated per se...no need to smack me. friday evening I got a call that my brother was being life flighted to reno. I left the house so quick that I barely brought anything with me and no food. not sure when i'm flying home.
Check in back home then fly back here. been doing my best to eat right. no junk but not eating much and no where enough water. so i'm going to keep on chugging along. i'll bring my food back with me next time but for now i'll just do the best I can..
Hang in there! Sometimes life intervenes - just make the best choices you can and take care of yourself! you'll be in our thoughts...
Hello, MFers. If you don't mind, I'd like to get in on this tough love you all are doling out. I think a daily thread to talk to others with a similar mindset will be good for me. Last night I went way off plan (Mexican food with my best friend after a whole day of staying on plan at a Medieval fair!), which led to me feeling like it was OK to be off plan today ("Oh, I'll just start again tomorrow since I screwed up yesterday...) Hopefully reading this thread and checking in will help me feel more accountable..
I'm sorry to hear about.
I hope things get better for her...
Oh, I'll never be able to retire. I'll work til I die. We lost everything a few years ago when our consulting company went under and I'll be old before I ever get all THAT paid off. But the kids are grown now and one is married, and I"m looking forward to playing with the grandkids for many years before I give it up. If I have to keep working and paying off the creditors, might as well take the opportunity to enjoy life too! I'm 51, and genetics are with me, so I'm hoping for another 30 or 40 healthy years..
No point in punishing myself just because the world isn't always nice! I like having my running time to myself, and being able to sleep, and enjoying a walk or a romp with the grandkids. There's something to be said for having enough energy to keep going and enoy it...
Chris: praying for you and DD. I hope she's well again quickly..
Marilee, I'm sorry you and the exciting dude ran into some issues. Taking a step back to contemplate how you feel about them sounds like a fantastic plan..
Cellis: *waving* I'm here! I'm here!! Yes, life is pretty freaking fabulous. I'm totally screwed with my law school work, and no idea how I'm going to get done what must be done, but somehow a new man also seems like a really important priority. Good to see you!.
Also, I'm sorry you had a flaccid fry issue. What were you wearing?.
Chickie: I love the thing about going out to eat not being as much fun. I totally agree. I mean, I like being out with people I care about. But any restaurant is the same as any other as far as I'm concerned, since I'm going to ask them to bring me plain steamed/grilled food anyway. Whatever they excel at in terms of sauces/flavors I'm not going to be eating. While I do love a restaurant-grilled steak, it's not like I am going to get all stoked to try this new place or something..
I'm also really sorry about the peanut butter. Guess it's time to a) recognize it's a trigger food and not allowed, and b) get more aggressive about having alternate ways to deal with sh*tty feelings in place. Back OP with a PLAN..
TKD: I am still thrilled for you with the seatbelt. That makes me so happy and proud of you..
Lynne: so glad you're feeling better..
Cheri: OMG hooray for the panties!!!!.
MT: Hooray for the pink matching underwear sets, you sassy thing you!\.
Talien: sorry things are hard for DH now...
Paradise - I hope you understand that there will be none of the sugar coated responses that people hand out on the connection forum. We will tell it like it is, no punches pulled. If that's cool with you, then welcome..
Much mojo being sent out to both Chris and Mary. Hugs to both of you...
Freya, I'm so happy and excited to hear about you and your new man. What a wonderful feeling that must be..
Prayers to Chris and Mary! I'll be thinking of you both...
We are not our feelings. We are not our moods. We are not even our thoughts. We are a product of our commitments..
-Dr. Stephen R. Covey..
Back from CT - completely and gloriously OP al weekend. Of course, not being home was helpful. Naked chicken tenders and a side naked salad Saturday for dinner and then lunch was my L&G today - grilled chicken on a fresh veggie salad, a few forkfuls of dressing on the side. When veggies are that fresh, they don't even really need anything. Unfortunately, the hotel room didn't have a little fridge nor a microwave, so it was mostly bars and pretzels, except for one hot cocoa that I mixed into a coffee. I thought, for a nice new Marriott, the least they could have provided was a microwave..
The party was great, we spent 3 hours snow tubing today before heading home..
Tomorrow I get to weigh in and then go to work while DH and DD hang out for the day. Hoping the scale has forgiven my little PB2 fling..
Chickie, I've gotta **SMACK** ya a little. Jeez, Louise - I was so battered and beaten I was afraid to even show up in here. The good smacking was good for the soul, though. I have to also suggest putting some soap, water, coffee grounds, SOMETHING yucky in that jar. I would probably also be the one trying to salvage what I could from the jar. The family is just going to h ave to do without it for the forseeable future..
I stared temptation in the face several time and came home victorious tonight. Feels good...
FWIW, in maintenance it's not ALL peanut butter that sets me off. If I go to the Whole Foods down the street and grind my own without any sugar, it doesn't set me off at all. I can have a little in a protein shake and it's fine - no worse than a handful of peanuts..
I wonder if the issue is the sugar?..
I don't like the fresh ground, unsalted, unsweetened kind at all, so it has to be the sugar in my case...
I think it is. I can't eat granola, the sugar sets me off. If I eat Muscili [sp](which has no sweeteners added), I'm fine. Honey is the only sweetener that doesn't seem to set me off into mindless eating...